They grew up on the Savannah,  just like elephants did.  But elephants and rhinos are  radically different.  Rhinos have small brains, but  they're really well grounded.  That's the reason why they're  always dirty.  And elephants, which you guys  know, are big, huge mammals.  They have 22 LB brains.  They have massive, massive  amounts of CSF.  In it and.  They kind of evolved 26,000,000  years before we did from the  primate tree.  And you know that the  encephalization quotient of  humans is radically different  than the mates that were linked  to.  And when you begin to see the  story, you go, OK, Jack's a  neurosurgeon.  He trained with Doctor Klein  down in Louisiana.  He's clearly very interested in  this story about the brain and  how it works.  So basically, I see all of our  modern patients as rhinos with  heavy armor but don't get enough sun to run their mitochondrial  matrices and this Ferrari engine in their head.  So what happens?  They become simplified.  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The host have no conflicts of  interest.  And now on to today's show.  Good morning.  Welcome to the next episode of  the Informed Health Initiative.  I'm your host, Doctor Hewitt  McCullough.  And I'm the Co host, Doctor Sean Troxler.  And we have a very special guest today, Doctor Jack Cruz, who's  remotely with us from El  Salvador.  We've both been big fans of  Doctor Cruz for a while and  really engrossed in his work.  I.  Doctor Cruz is, and he sometimes build on some podcasts as a  banned neurosurgeon.  I don't like to call it that.  He is a neurosurgeon.  He's also got a bigger history.  I know he is a dentist at one  time and then an oral surgeon.  And we have some connection  because he spent a lot of time  here in the state of Louisiana.  Doctor Cruz, if you don't mind,  I'd like to let you just kind of give us more of your background  and then proceed as you see fit. Yeah.  I don't know.  I don't know why people.  Call me a bad neurosurgeon  either, you know.  My I keep seeing that on the  podcast.  Yeah, on.  My whole career, 40 years of  neurosurgery, the things that I  like to tell people, and oral  surgery too, I've never been  sued once, never had any license taken away, never had my  hospital privileges, you know,  curbed or limited for any reason at all.  So I think maybe it's done to  sell, you know, podcast and you  guys are in the podcast  business.  You know, I'm not, I just I'm  the guy that people want to talk to.  So I guess you generate clicks  and money and revenue.  Who knows?  Maybe this is part of the  Rockefeller paradigm in  podcasting.  I don't know.  But I guess this would probably  be the first podcast I ever do  with two doctors trained in  Louisiana like I did so.  From that.  Perspective.  Now you guys are in Shreveport,  I'm in.  New Yes, Sir.  Same health, same Health Center, but different places.  They have different experiences, but I think you guys have a very interesting experience.  Hopefully we get into it in the  podcast.  I'd like to know how much you  guys really knew about Andrew  Marino since he was up your way  in.  Shreveport.  And had to basically find, you  know, sanctuary in Shreveport  for most of his career to run  away from the industrial  military complex.  You know the Doctor Fauci of his time, which was Philip Handler,  who was.  I remember Doctor Marino's name, I just didn't really know him.  Yeah.  Well, he's, I'm just telling  you, if you can get him on your  podcast, my opinion is you  really should.  And probably through our  discussion today, you'll  understand why he was the  biophysicist that worked with  Robert O Becker and.  Did.  Oh, wow.  Oh man, I did not know that.  Yeah.  I did most of his, his vetting  of his experiments.  And if you read his book, and I  would strongly recommend for you 2, since you're both physicians  and you trained up there, read  his book Going Somewhere because it is a treatise in  electromagnetic interference  that's pairing with all of our  patients now.  So all of our patients are  effectively now like rhinoceros. This is not elephant.  And I'll explain that to you  down the road because that's a  neurosurgery thing.  Like have you ever visited my  house on Bourbon Street or my  house in Louisiana or now my  house here?  And I'll start with where you'll come in and one of the things  that you notice because I have  rhinoceroses everywhere.  Really.  Yes.  And people always ask me, you  know, why is that the case?  How is it tied to the story that we're unfolding now?  Rhinos are heavily armored.  They grew up on the Savannah,  just like elephants did.  But elephants and rhinos are  radically different.  Rhinos have small brains, but  they're really well grounded.  That's the reason why they're  always dirty.  And elephants, which you guys  know, are big, huge mammals.  They have 22 LB brains.  They have massive, massive  amounts of CSF.  In it and.  They kind of evolved 26,000,000  years before we did from the  primate tree.  And you know that the  encephalization quotient of  humans is radically different  than the primates that were  linked to.  And when you begin to see the  story, you go, OK, Jack's a  neurosurgeon.  He trained with Doctor Klein  down in Louisiana.  He's clearly very interested in  this story about the brain and  how it works.  So basically, I see all of our  modern patients as rhinos with  heavy armor but don't get enough sun to run their mitochondrial  matrices and this Ferrari engine in their head.  So what happens?  They become simplified.  You know, Savannah animals like  the rhinoceros.  So my patients are hanging on  the wall all around me.  They're on the bookcase, and I'm trying to turn them into  elephants.  I'm trying to get them so they  begin to understand the reason  why elephants have so much CSF  like we do and rhinos don't.  Like I tell people, the last  extinction event that we all  went through, I'm sure you've  heard me talk about this,  another podcast.  I'm just going to throw out some things that may stimulate some  of your questions to get us to  the crux of what you want to  talk about.  I want you to think about the  two animals that got through the KT event, Euphere and mammals  and theropod dinosaurs.  We know that theropod dinosaurs  became birds.  We can tell from the hip joint.  Well, let's talk about a modern  burn that I know you have in  Louisiana, because I had him in  my backyard when I lived there  and I have him here.  Woodpecker.  You know that a woodpecker  doesn't have any CSF in its  brain.  So I want you to think about  this.  You guys know what a woodpecker  does, right?  He bangs his head up against a  damn tree to make a hole.  So you start to see that and  then I just told you the story  about elephants 26,000,000 years before we show up, they  magically get this huge 5000  gram brain with 2 1/2 liters of  CSF in it.  And remember they're on a  Savannah and you guys know that  I talk about Michael Crawford's  work and DHA and this and that.  And then I told you the link  between armor on rhinos and  elephants.  Have no rhino I should say.  Have no armor.  What does that functionally  mean?  What am I trying to tell you?  I'm trying to tell you that the  thickness of your exterior has a lot to do with how much sun you  can absorb, meaning vitamin D.  What did you guys learn in  school?  Just like I did, but probably  never were taught why it's  important.  Right before cytochrome  seoxidase sits the VDR receptor. The VDR receptor is designed to  be a fuse.  OK, so when you're in the sun,  your vitamin D level is good.  It stops electron chain  transport.  How important is this?  What's the other thing?  That's a fuse box for this  system.  UVA Light, which I know you're  making in Louisiana right now,  even in Shreveport, also makes  nitric oxide.  Nitric oxide inhibits cytochrome C.  So you have nature now telling  you that vitamin D and nitric  oxide made from outside in block electronic chain transport.  But here's the irony that you  never asked.  You're probably biochem  professor in in LSU.  You guys keep teaching us some  biochemistry.  The ATP is the the key  thermodynamic battery in  mammals.  There's two reasons why you  can't use ATP to explain how  anybody who's an Equatorial son. Like a rhino or an.  Elephant can do what they do and then you begin to see the  difference in what the rhino and elephant does.  The the rhino kept his brain  simple because since he does he  has so much armor he doesn't  have the protection to make a  lot of nitric oxide or vitamin  D.  So do you know why they don't  get big brain is because they  have no protection for the  mitochondrial matrix so they  can't explain expand their brain otherwise they try to circuit.  This is similar.  To.  You know what you guys would  find?  Like if we went around  Shreveport right now and we  found a 1920s house, but we're  going to plug it into the  Entergy nuclear power plant  that's close to you.  You know what's going to happen  to that house?  It's going to burn up.  Yeah.  Well, that's the reason why  rhinos kept their brains small.  Let's talk about the elephant  now, because remember both of  these animals Equatorial on the  Savannah, Same environment, but  they made a different choice.  The.  Elephant has thin skin.  The elephant allows more sun to  get in.  The elephant has that same VDR  receptor because remember both  of these suckers are mammals and it makes more nitric oxide.  So what happened?  It gets this massive brain,  grams.  Why?  Because it can't fry its  circuits.  And.  What does the water do?  The water is actually what they  should have taught you in  biochemistry.  It turns out that is the main  way that mammals generate  energy, not from ATP.  And the reason that this hasn't  been well understood goes back  to what happened at the turn of  the century when Standard Oil  gets blown up by Teddy Roosevelt and John D Rockville stands in  Congress and says, I'm going to  make sure I bankrupt America.  And what does he do after they  break up Standard Oil?  He builds basically big farm in  New Jersey, and he uses all the  different waste chemicals to  come up with ways to ruin  biology in certain ways so that  people will be become addicted  to using the drugs that he makes for these solutions.  What?  What effectively did the flex in a report do?  It gave Rockefeller and the  Rockefeller Foundation control.  Over the curriculums that you 2  learned and I learned.  Remember, we're in the same same university system, separated by  maybe 3-4 hundred miles.  So I know what you learned, and  you know what I learned.  But the story?  That I just told you about  rhinos and elephants, which you  don't need a randomized  controlled clinical trial  because you go to any freaking  zoo and see that these animals  are alive.  They come from the same area.  Then you stop.  At least I stop when I got to  LSU and talked to Nicholas  Bazan, talked to David Klein.  And when I posed these questions as resonance as a resident, I  should say, I said, you know,  humans also evolved around the  East African rift.  So that means we have to have  something in common with rhinos, elephants and us, our brain.  And I began to ask those  questions and from me being a  young whippersnapper, Dr. Klein, who I'm sure you guys know he's  now dead, but probably world  famous neurosurgeon from LSU to  me, Jack, he goes.  I think you need to learn about  this guy named Robert O Becker.  He's an orthopedic surgeon who  is at SUNY Syracuse.  He's doing some really  interesting things on mammals.  And the first thing he told me  is he took kids that had  fingertips cut off and he used  silver ions and redid their  whole fingertip, like complete  regeneration.  And I'm going, I look at him,  I'm like boss, because that's  what he used to call Klein.  I said, you're telling me they  did the muscle, the nerve, the  bone, like the whole thing and  the nail.  He goes everything 1960.  OK.  So so Klein Klein gives me this  job as AI think I was a first  year nurse surgery resident.  You need to, you know, look at  Becker's work.  He goes, not only did he do do  this really interesting thing  about fingertips, he goes, but  he also proved that bone doesn't heal.  It regenerates completely  because it's like the liver.  And I had never heard that  before, you know, in my dental  training, my medical training,  or in any of my biochemistry  classes or any of my Physiology  classes, which kind of surprised me.  And then when I read all his  work and found out that most of  the work was done in the 50s and the 60s and then he was  immediately cancelled by you  know, the industrial military  complex and DARPA, specifically  the Secretary of the Navy.  And then I found out the story  with Handler and handlers link  to the Rockefeller empire.  I pretty quick got very  interested in the story and so  much so that when I read his  work and I gave the talk to the  residents, 5 other residents  didn't believe what I told them. And Klein just sat back in his  chair and started giggling  because he knew that I was  stirring up a pot that you know, he was probably too old to get  into.  But The funny thing was, later  in my residency, when I became a real nightmare, I told him that  Becker's work had huge  implications.  For the way we were doing  peripheral nerve surgery too.  And you know he didn't like  that.  Part because that was, you know, his baby.  But nonetheless, when this all  comes down, I go through my  training and this and that and  then it it falls back on me when I have one of my own issues, I  go back to the primary care  doctor and say, look, I'm having trouble.  I just told my knee meniscus  given a talk on spine surgery in Birmingham, AL.  And one of the.  Ladies that was there is married to an orthopaedic surgeon worked for Amgen, you know a  Rockefeller, you know, inspired  big pharma company and she told  me I know why this happened.  I'm going to send you a book in  six papers, which she did.  She told me specifically to read the book 1st and then the paper  right.  When I read the book in the  papers.  What did I think she was trying  to tell me?  I think she was trying to tell  me I need to put Big pharma out  of business.  It's actually not how I took the message.  The message I think in the book  called the Monk Who Sold His  Ferrari was a bigger deal for me because of what happened to me  at Charity Hospital.  So.  The some.  So when I'm a young resident,  Klein, who is my mentor at LSU,  world famous neurosurgeon, says  to me, because I want you to do  a report to the residents about  this guy, Robert O Becker.  He's an orthopedic surgeon at  City Downstate who in the 50s  and 60s did this pretty amazing  stuff, you know, that he had  read that bone doesn't heal.  It regenerates fully, kind of  like our liver does.  And when Klein told me that, I  looked at him like, you know,  especially since he's an older  guy.  I'm going, there's no way this  is true.  You know, I never heard this.  You know, in high school, I  didn't hear it.  In college biology, I didn't  hear it anywhere, you know, and  not in that.  I didn't even hear it from when  I was in dental school, when I  was an oral surgery resident.  And, you know, and when I was an oral surgeon at LSU as well,  most of what I did was move  people's bones around in their  face.  So you would think.  You would think just.  From from that alone.  That I would have heard about  this, but I didn't hear it in  any of my training.  So anyway.  I, I take Klein up on his  advice.  I do it.  I present to the residents and  the none of the residents  believed what I told them.  I actually had to hand them  Becker's papers and they all  looked at me the same way.  I'm like, why'd this guy get,  you know, Canucks?  Then that's when I told him,  well, he got really close to a  story with the US Navy when the  Navy found out that we use ADC  electric current.  And let's be clear.  What he found for your audience, because you guys may not know  this because you told me that  you haven't read the book yet  and don't know about his  research.  What did he find?  He found that when we break a  bone, doesn't matter if you're a frog, an amphibian, or a mammal  like us, that when you break the bone, the bonus piezoelectric,  it uses 2 semiconductors.  Semiconductors, P&N.  The ones that you've learned  about is collagen and appetite,  and they bind in bone to make a  bone.  What controls bone regeneration  is ADC electric current that you generate.  Somehow he never knew from his  work how the generation  happened, but it was a pico amp  mirror current.  What does that mean for people  at home that don't know anything about this?  That's one trillionth of 1 amp  mirror.  So we're talking a really,  really small current actually  was able to take a red blood  cell, an adult red blood cell D  differentiated back to a stem  cell.  The stem cell then would become  an osteoblast and the osteoblast would heal the bone completely  with no scar, and that broke  every.  Rule.  In the book that you guys  learned, and I learned why?  Because we were always told that cells can only go one way.  They can't go backwards.  OK, that's like the the biologic dogma that's taught in  Rockefeller medicine since the  reflection report, you know,  since we discovered DNA in 53  with Watson and Crick.  But if you remember right at  this time, because I'm going to, I'm a resident when the human  genome projects going on that  goes on from 83 to to 2001.  And when this comes out, the  residents, of course, I'll ask  me.  Well, what happened to this guy? Well, the, the US Department of  Navy, specifically the, the head of the Navy at that time in told Becker that they were  getting ready to build this  sanguine tower in Wisconsin.  Why?  They wanted to control all the  nuclear Trident Subs all over  the world.  So they needed to use RF  radiation to do it.  And if you know anything about  RF, it can work because it  bounces off the ionosphere.  And even when you're on the  other side of the world, you can get information on the  coordinates of where the sub is. So they hire Becker.  And a guy that you guys need to  interview, Andrew Marino,  because he's at LSU, Shreveport. He's retired now, but he's  professor emeritus.  He was the biophysicist and  lawyer that worked for Becker.  They did a study for the US Navy in 73 that showed that this RF  antenna, with the power density  that it had, would affect the  Earth's magnetosphere 80,000  kilometers above the planet.  So the answer.  Wow.  They gave the Navy was  absolutely it's going to affect  living things around it.  Why?  Because you guys know his  doctors.  The way radiation works, the  point source you're closest to  is where the biggest risk is.  So that's the reason why we  don't have medical students  sticking their head in the flora machine or, you know, you  sticking your head in a  microwave, things like that.  So Becker was told that all his  work would be published in the  Federal Register.  And, you know, when things get  published in the Federal  Register to become kind of like  laws in the United States right  now.  Yeah.  Well, it's, there's actually,  believe it or not, there's  things that changed in the Nixon administration because remember, this isn't a Nixon time.  Nixon basically said any  executive order that gets put  and published in the Federal  Register effectively becomes  law.  That's something that wasn't  true at our country's genesis,  right?  So when the Navy promised Becker they would do this and they  never did it, Becker got so  frustrated.  Over 4 years, he gets on 60  minutes with the guy that was on there.  I'm blanking on his name now,  but I can see his face.  Mike Wallace.  Yeah, Mike Wallace.  And he, he tells the story for  the whole world to hear.  Now, why didn't this land the  punch like it would land today?  Because back in 1977, nobody  except rich people on 5th Ave.  in New York owned the microwave  ovens.  So nobody really understood what the science really said.  So what gets what gets published from 73 through 77?  This is all the work that Becker and Marino did.  This is all covered in Marino's  book, which is called Going  Somewhere, which you guys need  to read.  But when he goes on national TV  and basically tells people that  not only is this antenna bad,  but remember where I told you he is?  He's in Syracuse.  He said you carry.  He was the governor of New York. He's getting ready to put power  lines that go from New York City all the way up to Niagara Falls, where Tesla's, you know, first  AC power grid was close to the  falls.  That also has an effect.  And me and Andrew Marino tested  that too.  So you don't want to live  anywhere within 1000 yards of  those those towers.  And you know, those towers right now, especially where you guys  are in Louisiana, they go all  the way from South Louisiana all the way up to north Louisiana.  They're everywhere in your neck  of the woods.  They go right through Alexandria all the way up to Shreveport,  so.  When this comes out, you then  had people taking fluorescent  light bulbs going under these  power lines and the light bulbs  would turn on Like that was when people first started to realize, holy shit, this guy is not full  of shit.  In other words, because nobody  had cell phones, nobody had  screens like we have today.  People started to use what they  had to prove that Becker was not lying.  So what immediately happens?  Becker gets his lab defunded,  he's twice already nominated for the Nobel Prize for the work  that I told you in bone and he's lost the history.  So I would say to you 2 guys,  cuz I don't know how you old you are, Did you ever learn about an orthopedic surgeon that proved  that bone regenerates who got  nominated for 2 Nobel prizes  anytime in your training?  No, OK, I'm.  Going to tell you why cuz this  is the real important part of  the story for what's going on  today in medical schools.  So David Rockefeller, who's now  in power when Becker's doing all this work, he is very good  friends with Phillip Handler.  Phillip Handler at at this time  is like the Anthony Fauci.  Of his day, OK.  And he basically controlled what got published and what did it.  Handler was a known biochemist.  He was a non believer in  everything Becker was doing.  But the reason he was a non.  Believer is because he was.  Funded by David Rockefeller.  Now you need to know what also  is going on at this time and  I've covered this another  podcast, I don't know if you  guys have listened to it, but  probably the best one is the  Danny Jones podcast and then the Robert Breedlove podcast where I talk about MK Ultra.  MK Ultra also plays out in our  state in Louisiana.  Why?  As you guys heard, one of the  the big universities that was  tied to CIA and MK Ultra funding was Tulane University.  And you know, in New Orleans,  since 1 of you said you were  down in the South part of the  state, you know that Tulane and  Charity Hospital.  Are.  Right next to each other.  The old LSU.  Medical in New Orleans enough.  Times.  Right.  And the old LSU medical schools  literally on the other side of  charity.  So literally, we're talking in  one city block.  These two medical schools are  there, and Tulane's got a  primate center and LSU has a  primate center.  I worked in the LSU Primate  Center when I was a resident  with Doctor Michael Carey, who  is now retired, but I think he's still alive.  And he worked for the Department of the Army when I was actually  in charity.  And you guys may remember this  since you're Louisianans, but in the Times Picayune, we had a  break in from the PITA people  trying to free the monkeys when  I was a resident.  And this meets a really big deal down there where that's probably the first place that I got  caught on the radar when this  happened.  And Long story short, through  this whole process, I go down  into the bowels of Charity  Hospital.  And if any of you've ever  visited there, you'll understand this.  All the records that go back all the way to like the 1780s are  down in the archives.  I find out the stuff that I'm  really interested in.  On the MK Ultra side is put in a tunnel that you have to go down  in the charity into the basement of two Lane and basically that  that tunnel goes all the way to  the Tropical School of Medicine, which is across the street on  Canal Street, you guys.  Know we're talking about  Carrollton and Canal we're  talking about.  A2 block span.  So but this, it's a lot of  space.  It's a lot of space, a lot of  space.  This is all places where all the archives were stored for both  LSU, Tulane and Cherry.  So when I'm doing this report  for Klein, I start to talk to  Klein.  About, you know, I.  I think I think there's a link  here between what Becker found  and what was going on in Tulane  neurosurgery.  Because if you trained at LSU at that time, you knew there was a  lot of monkey business about  those primate lives.  And everybody who trained down  there knew about it.  And people knew that it was tied to the story of Alton Ochsner.  Why?  Because as you guys know, as  Louisiana guys, Alton Ochsner  used to be the head of surgery  at Tulane.  He took over for Rudolph Matass. And toss is.  Very, very famous down there.  But then what happens when  Ochsner takes over?  He gets into a big fight with  another guy that you know from  Louisiana, UEP Long and his  family used to be the the  governor down there.  And it turns out that Osner  wanted to do things 'cause he  was working at that time with J  Edgar Hoover and the FBI.  He then gets in bed with the CIA and eventually.  This.  Leads to two lane firing Osner.  Osner goes to Jefferson Highway  and opens up Osher Medical  Foundation.  But you guys know, it's kind of  like the Mayo Clinic of the  South now in New Orleans, it's  become a big monster itself, but magically.  Through this whole process,  Alton Usher gets a grant from  one of our House of  Representative guys who you guys can see today in New Orleans,  the Hale Boggs building.  Hale Boggs used to be the head  of appropriations in Congress at this time.  When you're talking about.  Language because I read it  Haslam's book, but go ahead.  So this is good.  So you know that there's a Hill  Burton grant given through Hale  Boggs who may who grease the  skids.  Some of the people that were  also politicians in UEP.  Long's family, this is now his  sons who also became a state  senator at the same time.  Boxes down there, they grease  the skids to clear up about 10  or $20 million to give Ochsner A linac.  And the linac gets put in the  basement of the US Public Health Hospital on Henry Clay Blvd.,  which is right across the street from Children's Hospital.  The reason I can have these  discussion with you guys because you guys are Louisiana doctors.  So you know what I'm telling you here is not bullshit.  It's all laid out.  So as a neurosurgeon, I had to  do my pediatric rotation  partially at Usher and partially at Children's Hospital on Henry. Clay Blvd.  And across the street I see this US Public Health hospital and at that time, you know, back in the late 80s and early 90s, it's not renovated, OK?  If you go there today, you will  not see.  What was there then?  But there's this huge building,  3 stories that look like a  church.  It went straight up.  And when I was on my breaks, I  used to always go over there and ask the the janitors, I said.  What was this building used for? Because the public health  hospital is in the front of the  property.  The building I was really  interested in is right on the  road that goes tease Henry Clay  Blvd.  And he goes, oh, that used to be a place.  Where a doctor from?  Oscar used to do experiments on  monkeys.  I said, really?  I said, can I get in there?  And, you know, at the time, the  building was all boarded up.  I believe this was in 1991.  And he let me in.  And then when I went in, what  did I see?  The first thing that shocked me, the building went down three  stories into the ground and went up three stories.  So it's six stories tall.  I get to the basement.  First thing I see is this huge  concrete Crucible and then a  channel going straight up in the air.  It almost looked like a a silo.  And then you see, I guess I  would call them concrete  pillars.  Six in a row, you know, in a  semicircle.  But there's an empty shaft where I guess the linac used to be.  How did I figure?  Out the linac was there.  This was the tell.  There was a huge grounding pad  there.  When I tell you this grounding  pad was probably let me try to  give you a, an analogy so you  guys understand something that  you would know.  I have to think about it because I'll use Louisiana as an  example.  I'll tell you, I'll tell you,  I'll give you a good one.  When you're driving from  Alexandria to Shreveport, you  know the big advertisements you  see on the side of the road.  You know where?  They they sell cars and shit.  It was the size of that, except  it was almost probably 1415  inches thick.  The wire that came off it was  like this big copper and twine,  but it was cut.  And I asked, the guy said what  the hell?  Is that for?  And he had no idea, but I knew  right away that this was a  grounding plug because I saw it  went straight into the earth  right next to it.  So.  Of course, I'm leaving there and I'm thinking about the story I  told you guys earlier about  Klein and Becker.  And I already know the story  about what happened at Tulane  with MK Ultra and the polio jobs and what happened with Oscar,  you know, bringing everybody  into the Amphitheatre that we  have there.  Most people who trained in  Louisiana know about the  Amphitheatre that Charity  Hospital had had and that Oscar  had, and when he paraded his two grandkids in there and gave him  the cutter jab.  You can still find this today in the newspaper in the archives of New York Times.  One of his kids grandkids dies  from polio 5 days later.  The other one gets the polio in  her leg.  So that's how we know that the  Cutter incident actually  happened.  So, you know, the Cutter  incident is wiped away from  medical history just like Becker was.  That's why.  Medical students, even in  Louisiana, don't learn what I'm  telling you right now.  How did I learn this?  Because I trained at Charity  Hospital.  Who was my ER nurse at Charity  Hospital?  Virginia Garrison, who happens  to be Jim Garrison's daughter.  OK.  And she's the one that clues me  in in 199091 because she knew as a nurse earlier as I was getting ready to head to Ochsner, she  goes, be careful when you go  over there.  And she starts telling me a lot  of the story that you guys heard in in the Haslam book.  But there's parts of this story  that aren't in the Haslam book  that I'm telling you because I  physically was in the place  where this linac was.  And here's the crazier point.  Guess what specialty in medicine uses a linac?  Neurosurgeons.  So the linac in my residency  when I get to Usher is sitting  in the freaking basement of  Ochsner laying down this time,  and it's clearly been modified.  So what did I do then?  I talked to the.  Next living Ochsner family  member, which is Jo John  Ochsner, his son.  He's a cardiovascular surgeon.  Why did I pick him?  Because back in those days we  didn't have coil for aneurysm.  So we used to cut people's chest open, stop their heart to clip  bachelor tip aneurysm.  I know you talk about dinosaur,  but guess what?  That's what we did in the late  80s and early 90s before we had  the newer technology and during  these cases, which you can  imagine lasted, you know, whole  day.  Yeah.  I decided to do something kind  of crazy.  I talked to my mentor  neurosurgeon, who is Ranvores.  I said, I'm going to ask him  this question.  He looks at me, goes, are you  freaking nuts?  Because you know, everybody  who's at Osner knows the story  about how his father killed one  of his own grandchildren, and he did it in front of the whole  medical staff.  So, like, if you're a resident  in Osher and you don't know the  story, you have to be almost  brain dead, OK.  Everybody knew about it.  The people who didn't know about it, though, were a lot of the  medical students, let medical  students.  The Qatar incident was hidden.  And when I talked to Jo about  it, he sent me down, believe it  or not, to the medical library  that was in the hospital in  Austria.  He goes, everything's down  there.  He goes, go talk to this lady  here.  She'll give you everything.  Because I told him I was doing  a, a research paper for Klein on bone regeneration.  And part of this story, you  know, was important about red  blood cells.  And he goes, yeah.  And he just never caught on to  what I was doing.  So you guys need to remember  what else is going on.  In 199091, in the basement of  Charity Hospital, They're  filming JFK.  Oliver Stone is there and who's  there?  Chantelle is my nurse and I'm  the resident.  In fact, the funniest part of  story, Chantelle, when she was  working down there, she was  going out to lunch.  Oliver Stone spilled Wendy  Smoothie all over her because he wasn't looking when he went past her.  Because you know, everybody was  walking in and out of the  basement of Charity because  where did they film this?  They filmed it in the morgue of  charity because it was, you  know, I guess a good place to do it.  And when this is all going on, I begin to realize the story of  Tulane neurosurgery and  neurology involved in MK Ultra,  where we go from putting wires  in in bulls heads to monkeys  heads, then to wireless  technology.  You know what happened with SV at the same place.  And then all of a sudden,  magically, the story about  Becker and Becker getting  cancelled and when I finished my residency, something actually  physically happens to me at a  spotting meeting that I was out. I was.  Showing some new minimally  invasive spine techniques that I had come up with when I was out  to a group of orthopedic and  neurosurgeons.  And what I got up, when I stood  up, I tore my knee.  Minutes.  Just didn't know that at the  time.  But there was a lot of  orthopedic guys there.  And they said, yeah, that's what happened.  I could barely get to the  podium, gave the talk.  But this was the most  interesting part of the story.  There's a lady who's married to  this Jackass, orthopedic  surgeons, They're no longer  married, but he was a true  Jackass.  I never liked the guy.  And his wife came out to me and  she goes, look, I know why this  happened.  I'm going to give you a book.  And six papers and.  I'm going to send it to you, and I think you'll be able to figure it out.  So the book she sends me, if you can believe this is a fable,  it's not even a true story.  It's called The Monk Who Sold  This Ferrari, written by a guy  named Robin Sharma.  And then the six papers are all  about this unusual chemical that I never learned about a medical  school, and I'll explain to you  why.  It's called leptin.  Leptin is discovered in 1994.  In Rockefeller University of New York by Jeffrey Friedman.  Now, I had already finished  medical school by that time, so  it makes sense why I would never learn about it.  But then I started to notice  those links in the paper she  sent me.  They were all tied to melanin.  They were tied to equine and  exocrine glands in the gut and  our sweat glands on the surface. And then the most magical thing  happens is she sends me a paper  that shows that the Rockefeller  Foundation paid an ungodly  amount of money for the research to make sure that Amgen would do this.  Amgen comes up with a synthetic  leptin so that, you know, they,  you know, understand why they  have to do this.  They have to make it synthetic  so they can patent it, so they  can sell the drugs.  And what do they do?  Literally after paying this  record amount which everybody  can go fine now on a 10K report. They cancel the leptin trials  and I thought this was really  interesting.  What happens from that point?  Where do I pick up the stunt?  Then they cancel the leptin  trials.  And then they immediately start  to patent cold receptors.  They immediately start to patent Glucagon receptors.  And I'm looking at this and I'm  going this, this really doesn't  make any sense.  So of course, you know me as a  resident, in between all the  shit I'm doing, I start trying  to put all the shit together and I began to realize what the goal was.  The goal was is they were trying to figure out how this all fit  together.  So when I went back, this is now after the knee issue at that  spine meeting, I go back to  Vanderbilt University and take  all the thermodynamic Givens  that I just shared with you and  started doing my homework in the medical school library at  Vanderbilt.  And I find out that there's this ancient pathway that's in all  mammals called the leptin  milanocortin.  Pathway.  It's really important in our  skin, our fat, it's important in our eye, it's important in our  brain.  It's linked to these.  Other options called neuropsin  and melanopsin, which I had  never learned about in medical  school.  And I'm sitting here looking  through the whole thing and I  realize, OK, the cold receptors, the TRP and receptors is tied to how we cool ourselves.  And then I realized something  early on from evolution that we  all have a mammalian dive  reflex.  When our babies are born,  they're designed to be born in  water.  Why?  We have so much fat.  We float up to the surface.  We don't take a breath.  You know, everybody knows about  the Nirvana album cover.  That's kind of where it all  links in and.  Leptin is below our skin in our  subcu fat, which I thought was  really bizarre in the beginning. And then I look at the Glucagon  receptor and I'm like, there's  something bizarre about all  this.  And what was the bizarre part?  Remember, I told you before, we  may have been on the other other channel before we got disrupted, but I started to find out that  all of these genes for humans  are on chromosome #2 and I said  that's really interesting.  I said Ponce, which is where  melanin comes from, which is  alpha MSH.  I said then the EDAR gene, which controls the E crying sweat  glands on our surface, that's  also on a chromosome too.  And then the Glucagon gene,  which controls exocrine function in the body.  Specifically, what you guys  learned about was pancreatic  function.  And then this magical part, this is the magical part for the  Becker part of the story, how I  really figured it all out.  There's a regulatory unit on  chromosome #2 called BCL 11A.  And you know what it does?  It is the switch, because I know you guys learned this like I  did.  It's this switch that turns us  from adults hemoglobin to fetal  hemoglobin.  And it's kind of looks like it's sitting there with no reason,  but it's on chromosome too.  And.  I go, you know, that's eerily  similar to what Becker found in  his research on bone because he  said that we have to de  differentiate bone from an adult form to fetal form and we have  to get the nucleus back in the  red blood cell to regenerate.  I said this has to be LinkedIn  some way.  So of course I'm digging  further, digging further.  And as I told you, this whole  thing is going on from 1983 to  to 2001.  That's when the human genome  products on, and then what can I magically find?  I find this guy named Jeffrey  Epstein gets hired by David  Rockefeller in 1983.  He's made member of the  Trilateral Commission.  He's also made made a member of  the CFRCFR is the Council of  Foreign Relations.  Why should this resonate with  you guys?  You may remember part of that  Danny Jones podcast when I was  on Cali and Cassie means their  dad worked for David  Rockefeller.  They also were part of the CFR.  They're now part of Maha.  And I knew that they were bad  news, really bad news because of what I'm about to tell you.  So when I find out that Epstein  specifically was hired by David  Rockefeller with no background,  he's powered up by Rockefeller  money to go find the four top  human genome project guys that  are working on chromosome 2.  That's what he's interested in.  So when they go there, they find the first guy is making George.  I'm blanking on his name.  I I don't want to say George  Allen because I think that's a  football coach, but people can  Fact Check this and go look at  he's the head of the G human  genome project.  Turns out he was not very  important.  But in the latest dump you got  from Epstein, you'll find out  there's like 1300 emails between Epstein and him really early on  through this whole, you know,  year process.  Then the next guy who's a big  guy that you need to pay  attention to, his name's Eric  Lander, of course, tied to the  DARPA web and ARPANET, which is  at Harvard.  His name's Eric Lander, and what do I find out about him?  80% of the work that was done in the Human Genome Project about  chromosome 2 is is tied to him.  So now I begin to understand why Epstein is so interested in this guy because it ties back to what Rockefeller paid him to do.  Then the next guy, Boris  Nicholo, he is the front man for guess who, Bill Gates.  And here's where it gets really  interesting.  I go through a whole bunch of  SEC reports, 10K reports and  what do I magically find out  that Bill Gates through his  Melinda and Bill Gates  Foundation in this time?  Putting all this together, I'm  hearing stories that Gates wants to get out of the the the  software business and get into  the vaccine business.  And the last?  I've heard it's called Ambrosia, and I'll tell you where it comes from because it's also  discoverable.  Ambrosia is when you take blood  from young mammals, give it to  older mammals and they get a  huge benefit.  OK, And the rich technocrats are now setting up a company called  Ambrosia where they pay $8000  for pints of blood from young  people to old.  Where did this come from?  From the literature that you  guys may have come across in the parabiosis studies with mice.  What did they do?  They rerouted their circulatory  systems from a a young mouse to  an old mouse and found out that  the old mouse got younger and  that's where it originally  began.  But who do you need to know  where all this stuff came from?  This comes from the Methuselah  Foundation.  This is all the tech Bros that  are tied to the PayPal mafia.  Even some of the guys that are  tied.  To the beginnings of Bitcoin.  But.  Clearly all the guys involved in Palantir, so they begin to know  that blood's a really big part  of the story, and I know that  blood's a big part of the story  for a regenerating bone.  So what does Epstein get from  all of this collaboration with  these four scientists from the  Human Genome Project?  He finds out that melanin can be made very simply in a lab from  adrenochrome.  And he finds out that  adrenochrome also is made from  Pom C Pom C, as you guys know,  has 11 different chemicals or  peptides associated, but one of  them has to be ACTH.  That's tied to both cortisol and the ability to make  adrenochrome.  Adrenochrome is made from  phenolic compound.  They have.  They're very, very rudely  covered when I think in the.  Is they were trying to create  adrenochrome to regenerate  people and that is why Becker  gets cancelled and how all this  stuff is tied together because  what does it turn out?  You guys may not know this, but  there's a famous guy that you  probably should have on your  podcast after you release this  and make sure he watches it.  His name is Eric Weinstein.  He's got a brother.  He's a biologist, but he is a  he's a what I would call a  pseudo.  Physicist and I don't want to I  don't want to use that in a  negative connotation.  I think he's a really bright  guy, but his work work is all in physics has all been  sidetracked.  And one of the questions that he just brought up in the last  three months on podcast that  he's done, he goes, you know, I  want to know why Jeffrey Epstein was at my facility, which was  MIT, and why he was funding  certain people and not others.  And what Eric was pounding the  table on without saying because, you know, I don't think he wants to get cancelled.  Is that Epstein was interested  in something very, very  specific, and any type of  science that would lead to this  being outed would be a promise.  So it turns out one of the  things I told you guys a long  time ago is that all three of us were taught at OSU that cells  are a bag of chemicals and  everything's about biochemistry. That's what Handler used  against.  Becker.  And what did Becker say back to  him?  No biophysics is upstream of  biochemistry.  Guess what?  Epstein officially found that  truth and that was transmitted.  Straight to Rockfall now how do  you?  Know.  That this information got to  Rockefeller, They cancel the  leptin Trauser Amgen.  And what did they magically come up with in 2005?  GLP one.  Drugs.  Well.  What's the 1?  That you guys remember suck it  was really system and block it.  What is the collateral effect of this whole thing that the  Rockefeller Foundation found out that when you do this, you  basically make people wilt to  nothing.  So that's the reason why they  sold it as a weight loss drug  for type 2 and type 1 diabetes.  But what effectively happened  when they kept using computer  analysis with the biota drug?  Now we get further down the Pike and they get better peptides  that do more different things.  What's the key thing that we  just find out literally in the  last two months from the  Stanford lab called the Blau  lab.  For anybody who doesn't know how that's spelled, it's BLAU.  They have a pre print out right  now that they used in mice.  Very similar setup to the.  The parabiosis studies that I  told you guys about.  But what did it show?  It showed that these drugs  destroy muscles, and it showed  it in mice.  So what do you have to know  about mice?  This is where it comes to the  melanin story.  So mice are small nocturnal  mammals that live under the  ground.  Now they don't do that in our  labs, you guys.  Know that, but that's kind of  how they're built.  So if you have an effect in  these mice, you know the effect  in humans is going to be  magnified.  And did I put a post out with  the reasons why that's all true? Because remember, we're diurnal. We have totally different  melanin strategy to do something different.  But what is the key thing in the blouse study to put a bow on  this so you guys will understand it.  It showed that the mice lose  their ability to regenerate.  That means it's exactly  unwinding what Becker found in  us.  So guess what?  The effect is magnified in us.  Now.  Right now, the blog guys don't  know why this is happening.  I can tell you the reason why  it's happening because when you  block the exhaust of the  mitochondrial matrix, what's the backup?  The backup where all this  nastiness goes is the inner  mitochondrial matrix.  And for those of you who don't  know, Nick Lane's written a  book.  Proven that the inner  mitochondrial membrane has a 30  million Volt charge on it as  hard as that is to believe that  charge is called delta PSI.  When you read papers, delta PSI  drops anytime you blocked E  crying and exocrine stuff.  So why is this muscle atrophy a  big deal?  Because basically it in it  causes heteroplasmy which is  early aging.  And what we're seeing in the  muscles is exactly what you guys see in your clinic.  When people get older, they lose muscle mass and get more fat.  OK.  The same thing is true in people that use GLP one drugs.  The real bad news is because of  the way this happens with the  Glucagon gene on chromosome 2,  these people.  Are going to have silent cardiac events.  That doctors won't realize going on.  Why?  Because what does it do?  It causes cardiac fibrosis and  it ruins the electrophysiologic  system of the heart.  And it does it in such a way.  It's silent until it becomes  deadly.  In other words, you'll get  someone with heart failure that  previously had none and you  won't understand it.  Why is the drug work for the  Rockefeller empire and all the  peptide?  God, it's like Nova Nordisk and  all that is because people are  more interested in vanity.  You're not interested in the  truth.  So if you take a fat fuck and  put them on these drugs and they lose weight, they're all happy  and this and that, but they  don't realize that they're  losing probably a decade or two  on their life on the back end  because they're rising, raising  their header plasma.  Now.  Are there other papers out there that are?  Beginning to hit this is where  it ties to the other part of the story that I mentioned to you.  This guy Thorpe that runs  Science magazine has a cadre of  PhD scientist that are designed  to make sure studies like the  Blau study never hits the  journal so that you guys in  Louisiana read it because they  want you to continue to keep  people on these drugs.  And remember, here's the  ultimate irony of the business  plan.  Blue line non-native BMF  electromagnetic stuff that  Becker found makes you fat.  These drugs make you skinny.  Except when they make you  skinny, they kill you.  So they built the whole business plan around chromosome #2 OK.  And the people that you guys  think are nefarious, they know  what the solution is.  The solution is the leptin  Milanocortin pathway.  When when Epstein got taken out  first in O8 with the first  pedophilia thing and then  finally in 19, everybody was  sold the story that he was this  monster doing this and that he  was protecting the monsters in  the Rockefeller Foundation, OK?  Those are the guys that made  your curriculum and my  curriculum OK.  And right now there's hundreds  of thousands of doctors in the  United States and fact worldwide that believe that these drugs  are good.  And I'm going to tell you.  The same thing that happened  with the COVID job is now tied  to the GLP one drugs.  Remember how most people figured out the COVID story when you  make the spike protein and had  LMPS on it?  The LMPS how to charge that  charge.  What did it do?  It reduced the 30 million Volt  charge on the mitochondria.  This is the reason why I'm sure  all three of us saw this and I  can tell you I saw it in your  state because I did some locums  before I quit in Alexandria.  I saw kids that were 30 years  old dropping dead in the ICU  from sudden cardiac events and  their spike protein assays were  through the roof and they took  one or two jabs.  Well, when I started to tell  people when this happened, you  need to send some of this tissue off to Kevin Mckiernan and let  him find out.  Do you have any SV40 promoter  involved?  Because we were also seeing a  ton of turbo cancers.  And one of the the big things  that I saw in Louisiana that  really stunned me is we were  told as physicians that fatties  and diabetics should be dying  from COVID.  That's not what I saw.  I saw young fit people dying.  And then I finally figured out  why.  Because when we started taking  the spike protein and looking at the charge on it, the charge was the exact same charge, you know, that would drain the inner  mitochondrial battery.  And I realized people who don't  have fat, like fat people, the  spike protein goes to your fat  and stays there.  Your fat can't kill you, but if  it goes to your mitochondrial  membrane body, that's a death  sentence.  You know, that's career.  If you guys remember what  happened to him, this is a guy  that looks like Adonis.  He gets fulminant A-fib and he  has to, he has to be  cardioverted last year in the  NFL.  This guy's going to be a Hall of Famer.  So when you actually see this  stuff and then people argue with you because remember the guys  that are in charge of this whole thing, they're selling you the  biochemistry.  Story goes, it's impossible for  this job to kill you.  If you look at the biochemistry  and you want to know the truth,  they're kind.  Of right about that, but that's  not how it kills you.  It's the biophysics that  actually kills you, and they  know that.  And I want to remind you, what  is the link between Rockefeller  and Bill Gates?  They're both eugenicists.  They're both interested in  culling the herd.  And John Dee is one of the  leaders in the House of trying  to do this a long time ago.  If you remember the the Georgia  stones that were up there, What, what did those stones say?  Those were all of Rockefeller's  friends.  They said that the world would  be really good when we got to  500 million people.  Well, there's 8 billion of us  now.  They've killed probably, I don't know, 1015 million worldwide  over the last five or six years. But I got news to you.  The GLP One program, the COVID  program, is all tied to the same story.  The only thing that they're  doing is they're doing it  differently.  What is the attack vector that  none of you seem to really  understand?  It's chromosome #2.  So that brings us to the next  part of the story that you may  find fascinating.  Why is it, Jack, the chromosome  #2 is tied to this African  Savannah thing you were telling  us earlier about, about rhinos  and elephants and this whole  thing.  Well, you got to know the  difference between rhinos.  In elephants is the same  difference between US and  monkeys.  And I'll explain it to you  really quick without getting too crazy.  Everybody knows that elephants  and rhinos came from the same  Savannah in Africa.  What everybody forgets is  gorillas, chimps and humans did  the same thing.  So what's the story that that I  came to?  If you come to my house, like  I'm looking at it right now,  have a life-size gold rhino on  my wall right here.  I have about 18 rhinos in my  house here in El Salvador.  Why?  Rhinos are like my patients in  the office.  They have really thick, armoured skin.  They're built more like  dinosaurs.  They have small brains.  OK, elephants who live in the  same environment have a  different body.  Plant.  They have no armor, they're  massive, they eat a lot of shit, but they have 5000 grand brains  and a lot of CSF.  And when you think about it, you go, that means an elephant who  lives in the same environment.  It's got a different biophysical program.  And what is the biophysical  program tied to?  It's what I told you guys  earlier.  When you have really thick skin, you can't get vitamin D through. Where is vitamin D?  It's on the enermonic  chondromembrane.  It's a fuse.  Remember I told you it's a 30  million Volt charge.  Well, if you make enough vitamin D, you can stop that charge,  right?  What's the other thing you make  from UV light?  Nitric oxide, T98 Nobel prizes  given for that Nitric oxy  oxidase.  Guess what that makes?  It makes water.  Well, remember the story I told  you about Becker?  That he found that you can  regenerate fingertips in humans, but you have to have the right  current?  Guess what happens when you take metabolic water and put it next  to melon?  It makes 1 pico ammere of ADC  current.  So when I figured all this out,  what do I do 2 years before  Becker dies?  I go visit him.  So you know the book you wrote,  you talked about the DC current. You kept saying.  I kept finding the current right below the myelin level and right below the Axon.  I came to tell him the answer.  It came from melanin, OK,  Because melanin also is involved in charge separation of water.  And it turns out when that  happens, it makes hydrogen,  oxygen, and four electrons.  Guess what?  The four electrons are where the DC current comes from, so that's how we regenerate and he found  that extremely interesting.  Then I told him the story that I told you about BCL 11, A being  on chromosome 2.  Then I explained to him what  happened in the Savannah.  Most people don't know that  gorillas have have 24 pairs of  chromosomes.  I bet you guys didn't know that, right?  Yeah.  OK, you know that we have how  many?  2023?  We have one less.  So how did that happen?  Well, it turns out the guys in  the Human Genome Project figured out chromosome #24 in the  gorillas about 7 and 9,000,000  years ago.  Telomeres touched and it became  chromosome #2 in US.  How do I believe this happened?  They never figured out, but I  believe it was deuterium in the  telomere tips.  What did that effectively do it  put?  An optical resonator in the  middle of our chromosome and  then magically we are Pomp C,  edar Glucagon and the BCL 11  genes there.  This totally changed our  ability.  So what happens?  What's the one thing that I know you guys know because you've  been to the zoo?  If you look at a gorilla or a  chimp and you look at us, what  do you notice about the skin?  They don't have as much hair as  they do, do we?  So isn't that the same story of  the rhino and the elephant?  Like that's a big.  Where do where do we leave off?  The difference in hair type  between the primates and humans. OK, so you know that there's a  difference there.  So we lose the hair that makes  our skin where the melanin is in carotenocytes, the outside  connector that allows to  encephalize our big brain.  Because chimps and gorillas  don't have frontal lobes, and we do.  If you look at their face,  you'll see they have no frontal  lobes.  So this is the exact same story  that happens in rhinos and  elephants, except this is later  in evolutionary history.  After this fusion event happens  at chromosome #2 so your skin is has become a solar panel that  allows you to encephalize.  How do we know that this is  effectively true?  Well, you guys probably heard of the story about Neanderthals.  You probably made jokes about it when you're a doctors.  You know, and you said to  people, hey, you're a  Neanderthal, and that had a  negative connotation.  Here's what you may not know.  Did you know that Neanderthals  have 125g more brain tissue than we did?  Their skulls are bigger.  So what happens?  Do you know why they're called  Neanderthals?  Because the valley of Neander is in Germany at the 51st latitude. That's the place where the  knockoff is, where they died.  So what does that tell you?  That's where they lost the  quantum yield to support the  huge brain who shows up us  because our brain starts to  shrink.  We're right at the right part so that we're the humanoid primate, the silly talking monkey that  actually go further in the dark. Do you know why that is?  Because we encephalize melanin  endogenously inside of us, made  us more efficient.  So why does this make sense to  you?  Because I'm giving you a lot of  lessons here, but your doctor,  So I think you'll figure it out. In the Human Genome Project,  what did we all learn?  Because we were all young men  then we learned something very  interesting.  Craig Venter told the world  during Bill Clinton's, I guess  you would call it his  administration, that they  believe that humans would have  100,000 genes because we're so  different than primates.  What did we find when it was all said and done?  We had 300 more genes.  So what does that mean, my  friend?  When you look at an ape, you  look at a chimp, and you look  at.  US.  You can't you?  It's almost shocking how  different we really are.  But yet the genes aren't the big thing.  So what does that mean?  It means that nature was  thermally efficient.  Genes aren't the key thing that  we've been told, but that's what the Rockefeller paradigm has had us believe since since they  found DNA, because it's a  biochemical story.  When you understand this, genes  are costly in energy, but what  do you find out about mammals  and how they're built  biophysically?  They're costly in time, and when you begin to understand they're  costly in time and not energy,  then you begin to see that the  excess energy was used to  encephalize.  This is the reason why the RPE  and the SCN in the brain of us  is so incredibly important,  because it allowed us to do  things that we couldn't do  before.  What's the fuel source?  The fuel source that you got  taught and I got taught was ATP. Turns out it's the CSF that's  around the brain.  It's actually the water that  melanin uses to charge separate  into electrons that allowed us  to do this whole program.  This whole program is an  optical, optical program built  on chromosome 2.  So the people.  That you guys are accept or I  should say mad at now because  you're just finding this stuff  out is Epstein.  Here's where Sean, you may be  shocked.  All this information I told you  has been sitting on my website  form in the healthcare  practitioners part for doctors  to read for 10 years.  So guess what, none of this is  new to me, but you know how it  started.  Started LSU in the basement of  Charity Hospital, doing a little project on Robert O Becker.  That's actually how the story  gets laid out.  And you know, I can tell you  that Marino to this day doesn't  know some of the stuff that I  told Becker.  He doesn't know where the DC  electric current comes from.  He's right now in his 80s.  You got any?  I think he's retired, so you  need to get him on as soon as  possible.  And one of the questions that  you guys need to ask him once  you get up to speed on his book. And, and Becker's book, he'll  want to talk to you about  Handler, but you need to zip  them forward.  When you know that melanin is a  big part of the story and you  know that these guys are trying  to take it apart.  You need to to really ask why  didn't anybody pick up the torch from Becker's work?  The guy that's closest right now in centralized medicine, but  he's a Rockefeller guy, is  Michael Levin in Boston.  Michael Levin.  And this is hopefully where you  spend a lot of your time talking to Marino.  Michael Levin has not advanced  the ball at all from where  Becker is.  He's still trying to convince  people that bioelectricity is  the key to the story.  And I just told you the real key to the story is it's photo  bioelectric.  It's all optical.  So in other words, I want you to understand fully before I'm done with you why all of us should be really mad as hell.  As physicians, we were all  taught as young men that biology is all from the inside out.  OK, If you know the  biochemistry, you can figure  everything out.  But I just told you now it's  everything is outside in.  Let me prove.  To you.  How do you make vitamin D sun  hit your skin?  312 to 320 turns a cholesterol  Acer into vitamin D.  What does it have to do?  Then it goes inside your kidney  and liver gets transformed to  125.  OK, I just told you outside in  what's another outside in story? Outside in story is UVA light  hits neuropsin.  The information in neuropsin  goes from the cornea, skin and  your fat mass.  Where does it eventually go?  Makes nitric oxide.  What does that do?  It inhibits cytochrome C  oxidase.  Outside in, Big deal.  What's the?  Last one, cytochrome C oxidase,  A heme protein.  OK, it's the protein that you  make metabolic water.  That metabolic water has no  deuterium in it.  We haven't even got into the  biophysics of deuterium because  I don't want your heads to  explode.  But how does this work?  Near infrared light actually is  the toggle switch that inhibits  or gets rid of nitric oxide and  allows you to make more ATP in  water.  In other words, it turns energy  on.  So what am I saying to you?  If you look at the inner  mitochondrial membrane, it's  basically a whole story of the  great Oxygenation event staring  you at the face, and you've  never realized it.  It's telling you that in the  Archaean Earth, when there was  no ozone layer, you had every  amount of radiation coming  through.  Melanin was made with  ferridoxin, which is the  original team protein that  occurred before any RNAs on the  planet.  These all happen from self  organization from the part  there.  Melon was the shield that  protected tunneling.  What did ferridoxins become that you know about?  That's the iron sulfur cores  that are in every cytochrome in  your mitochondria.  It's still fucking there 4.3  billion years later.  And what is the goal of that  entire system?  To take huge amounts of  radiation and turn it into one  pico ammeter, a current for you  to build out your body plant.  So what's the story?  It's a story of electrical  resistance.  In order in order to have the  proof of work of biology, you  have to slow the power of this  chaotic light down.  How did we do it?  One of the things that you learn about chromosome 2 melanin gets  absorbed into the body, gets put in a pom C Pomp C is the only  gene in in humans that is  translated by UV light.  What else did we find out in the 60s?  At the same time that Becker's  doing his work, and I don't  expect you guys to know this.  Guy named Roland Van Wyck and  Fritz Pop, both of them are  biophysicist.  Find out that every cell alive  emits ultra weak UV light.  How do you like that shit?  So in other words, now you're  starting to see the biophysics  story.  Why don't you guys know about  that?  Guess who blocked all their work too?  I'll give you a guess.  Got it.  So when you start to see all the pieces fit, you start to go,  wow, this story is ancient.  Do we know that paradoxes showed up before there was Adna code?  The answer is yes.  In fact, I'm going to tell you  slowing down the power of the  electromagnetic spectrum of  Archaean Earth 4.6 billion years ago was the key in getting the  code.  It was also the key in  encephalization.  We have to have electrical  resistance in our body.  And that's the story why I told  you about why evolution put the  VDR receptor on the inner  mitochondrial membrane, because  it turns out in the morning when the sun rises, that's when you  make metabolic water.  That metabolic water has to bind to melanin for you to make the  small DC electric current.  Guess what happens as soon as UV light comes on, especially?  UVB, you no longer use the ATP.  You're now using what the  original shield was built in the Archaean world.  You're using melanin that turns  the power of the sun into usable energy for you.  Why you don't make any ATP when  there's UVA light.  And that has been staring  everybody in the face for  literally 70 years.  But Sean, you never learned on  biochemistry.  But the answer is sitting right  there.  That's the reason why ATP isn't  the key factor.  It's the reason why Gilbert Ling found the things he did when he  argued with Peter Mitchell.  Like all the stories that I'm  throwing at you right now,  people who know my work really  good, they're going to sit there and go, holy shit.  This is like the whole story  laid out so you can physically  understand.  It's all discoverable.  There's papers on everything  I've said, but you know what  your job is as the doctor.  When I was 40 years old, I  didn't know any of this.  Now I'm an old fuck.  And for 25 years I've been  putting this all together and  now I understand it.  And I understand it like you can imagine.  And I'm astounded by the  biophysics that we come built  with.  And when you really get it, you  begin to understand that you  don't need drug supplements or  even food to actually be really  healthy.  What you need is you need to run that Archaean system that's  based in you that is a melanin  water battery.  And the two parts of that  melanin and the original heme  protein are still in you.  OK, They're still in you.  But what has Rockefeller  convinced all of your patients  to do?  Wear sunglasses, sunscreen,  clothes for the last 80 years,  right?  The sun is toxic.  What did what did they tell your patients in Louisiana when COVID came out?  What did John Bel Edwards tell  people?  Stay inside.  You start to understand now why  because if you went outside they couldn't get you sick.  They couldn't get your PCR test  to work.  They couldn't sell you the next  bio weapon which was built, you  know, they told you it was brand new mRNA technology.  Turns out it was built in based  on a charity hospital in the  primate labs at Tulane and.  LSU You never knew that you were blinded tonight.  You may know bits and pieces of  it, but you didn't see how it  all fit.  Because it turns out, as soon as you get the sun on your melanin  water battery and that BCL 11  kicks in, you don't need any  doctors.  You don't, you don't actually  don't need big Pharma.  You become a decentralized  savage.  So when you want to know why I'm sitting on a podcast with two of my colleagues from LSU and I  have no shirt on and they're  inside, that's proof that I  understand the story and they're learning.  When they read the books and  they listen back to this  podcast, you're going to astound yourself everything that you  thought was true.  And you'll hear podcasts that I  did.  The 18 months that I went back  after figuring this all out at  Vanderbilt, it was the hardest  18 months I've ever been a  doctor because I realized I was  lied to like a motherfucker.  And you know what made me the  most angry?  You know, I'm a pretty smart  guy.  I'm in the top of my class and  everything I've ever done and I  got fooled.  So that means I know everybody  else can get fooled.  And if you want to know the  reason why I get so angry and  you hear my anger on Twitter, on podcast, hopefully now when  people listen to this podcast,  you'll begin to understand why  because.  The people that ran the first  system, that's the people of the Green Revolution.  That's the Rockefeller office in room 5600 in Rockefeller Center. When Rockefeller got into  biotechnology.  Bro this is when our whole life. Changed in medicine everything  about what we believe was stolen from us.  We we truly as centralized  physicians, we have been active  participants in time theft on  our patients because we were  made smart enough to learn what  they needed to learn, but we  were not smart enough to ask  questions pasta and that's why  you never got to the biophysical realm.  It's also the reason why they  canceled Becker because if you  understand what I'm saying, you  can understand now why Becker  was so dangerous this paradigm.  He was basically telling you if  you use the DC electric current, you can heal fingertips that are cut off in humans.  And, you know, as a doctor,  you're like, wait a minute, you  know, we know salamanders can do that, but.  We can do that too.  Like if we can do that, you're  going to start going, well, if  somebody's got a cataract, why  can't we fix it?  If somebody's got, you know, I  don't know, metabolic syndrome,  why can't we fix that?  Well, we can't.  But guess what?  If you did that, would you use  any big pharma drugs to do it?  The answer is no.  And I think that's ultimately  what the lady that worked for  Amgen.  Who I met in the early 2000s.  When she handed me all those  papers, what she was trying to  teach me, but what I kind of  told you guys is where I went  with it.  I figured out the evolutionary  story backwards.  In other words, work post KT  mammals.  That's after the last extinction of that.  I went all the way back to the  4.6 billion years ago and I kept kept looking at it.  I'm like, all food webs are tied to photosynthesis.  You know what photosynthesis  really is?  It is.  A cheap story where all food  webs come from, but it's after  the ozone layers made.  That means we can only use  visible spectrum.  And then I kept looking at  leptin.  I'm going, you know, leptin's  got a 220 nanometer absorption  spectrum.  I'm like that light doesn't come to Earth.  I said, how the hell can we have this unbelievable energy account in our sub key fat and we don't  even have the God damn light  from the sun that makes it.  And then it dawned on me.  Or maybe we're making the light  inside of us from another  process, and that's when things  really began to hit.  And then and.  How did I figure out to look  past photosynthesis?  This will probably be the newest stuff that I haven't really  talked too much about that I  think you guys will appreciate.  I haven't even released the blog yet on my Patreon, but I think  you'll like it because you were  all alive when this happened.  So I gave you the timeline.  For me, how I was figuring all  this out, what also happened  between 1983 and 2001, this  nuclear accident in Chernobyl in the Ukraine.  And, you know, it melted down  and the Russians eventually had  to put a big steel thing over  the top.  Everybody knows the story.  But you know, what everybody  forgot is what was the story  before they confined the leak?  There was a big.  Pool.  Of water below the reactor that  melted down.  And if this nuclear meltdown had have gone into those pools, it  would have made steam and the  steam motor went up and ruined  everything in Europe.  OK, so most of you probably know that Chernobyl melted down in  late April of 86, but you don't  know on May 4th 1986.  Three guys that worked in the  plant.  Two of them were mechanic, I'm  sorry, engineers.  The third guy, I think was a  mechanic, volunteered to go down in Chernobyl to see what was  going on between the nuclear  pile, the graphite.  That was in there and all the  spent fuel to see how close it  was to these water pools.  So they put on a wet suit, wet  masks and rubber boots.  They strapped A dosimeter like  you guys had when you're in  medical school on their left  chest and also their right  ankle.  And they go through because they know the plant.  And the story is that they told  that the things were screaming,  the dosimeters they found where  the problem was, they were able  to drain the pool.  So nothing ever happened.  But here's the part of the story you guys never got told.  When they came out, everybody  assumed just like they do  because you and I were taught  the same thing, that nuclear  spills and radiation is deadly,  right?  People die right away.  What if I told you that two of  the three guys to this day are  still alive?  One guy died, and he didn't die  of radiation sickness.  He died of heart failure.  Wow, He just died not that long  ago.  But here's the big part of the  story that you're really going  to like.  Do you know that they had tans  from their knees down when they  came out?  It was the most striking finding that occurred when they came  out, and I guarantee you, you  didn't.  Learn that.  But guess what I did?  I found this out during that  whole foray in the basement of  Charity Hostel, looking at  Becker's work and this and that, that that gamma radiation can  actually turn melanin on like.  This.  And I thought to myself, now  that is some shit right there.  And I, I never thought about the significance of it, but when I  learned about it, I started to  go, this is crazy.  And I started to research a  little bit about nuclear physics because, you know, I told you  I'm a smart guy, but I'm not  trained in everything.  And that's what I found out  about deuterium.  I said, you know, the water that was down below that that nuclear spill.  It was filled with heavy water.  Sure.  And I was like, I know that when deuterium gets squeezed by  radiation it emits UVC light.  Is that the reason why these  guys actually got tans on their? Legs, because that's where the  radiation was worse.  Believe it or not, the radiation wasn't bad up here.  They checked their dosimeters on the top chest.  It was not bad.  The one that was screaming was  the one in their boot, but they  were only down there for a short amount of time to do what they  had to do.  None of them died.  In fact, the story is with the  Russians because it's now  Ukraine, because most people  don't know that this city in  Chernobyl is actually in  Ukraine, that these guys were  extremely healthy their whole  life.  You know, it's now 40 years  later.  Now, what's the other part of  the story that's come up  probably at the end of your  career?  They told all of us when we were young doctors that all these  people would die.  We'd have, you know, so many  like Hiroshima, Nagasaki,  radiation sickness stories.  None of that turned out to be  true.  And then magically they started  to notice with no humans there,  deer, animals, plants, bugs,  everything started to fucking  grow in Chernobyl and nobody can figure out what's going on.  So what did the Russians do  about 10 years ago?  They had to redo the capsule  because it was starting to break down.  So that meant radiation was  getting out, but the life around it was growing crazy.  It was.  It looked like it was growing at faster rates, coming back faster than they ever thought.  So the Russians drill a hole  through the capsule, they put a  camera, and you know what they  find?  They find bacteria and fungi.  Remember the earliest eukaryotis fungi filled with melanin  feeding off gamma radiation.  The gamma radiation is coming  out and it's making everything  grow faster.  So guess what I just told you?  The story was when you have UN  hydrated melanin.  OK, no CCL at all.  Melanin is an excellent  electrical conductor.  Mean it makes a huge DC electric current.  What did they find out when they started testing all this after  Chernobyl?  They found out that anything  that had melanin in it grew  metabolically 20% faster.  So that's why all the animals  came back when they got the  cracks in the shield.  All the animals were growing  faster than they thought, and  they were very robust.  They were very healthy.  You want to hear the other crazy thing?  They weren't radioactive.  How do you like that exactly?  There should be a lot of wows  for you here, because remember  what the pathways called?  Pathways called the look up then monocortin pathway in you.  So what am I telling you that  not only is the sun not toxic,  there's a program built in you  with melanin and water where  it's very beneficial.  And we now know this this in  other words, this isn't Jack  Cruz's opinion anymore.  Turns out you're noble has told  us that everything that happened prior to photosynthesis was  actually important.  And guess what that part of the  Earth is called?  That's the Archaean Earth where  there was no DNA, there was no  genes, all that was present was  ferredoxin and melanin.  And have we proven already, and  did Jeffrey Epstein help us do  this, that if you take phenol  phenolic compounds and put it in the electromagnetic spectrum  from gamma rays to RF radiation, that you make adrenochrome and  eventually make melanin?  The answer is yes.  We now know that and he do that  and that's what they were doing  at the Zorro Ranch before it.  Got shut down, now I will.  Tell you, the people that he  hired and blackmailed in the  Human Genome Project, they were  not biophysicists.  Most of them were biochemists.  So they were not going to figure out the key issue.  Where I think they left off is  they found out that if you  terrorize kids, they make more  adrenochrome and then that  adrenochrome can become melanin  and they found out.  That when you take melanin in  that it increases your metabolic rate.  In other words, it's just like  the parabiosis story.  Yes.  How do we know this 2014?  In fact, if you want to, you  guys should probably do this.  After the podcast.  There's a tweet out there that  the guy put out in 2014.  A paper came out.  That showed that if we eat  plants with chlorophyll, that we actually get a metabolic boost  from doing that.  So when I saw that paper and you already know that I know all the stuff that I'm telling you, I'm  going, does this mean that  Epstein figured out adrenochrome and melanin, chaga mushrooms and mushrooms?  Anything with melanin in it can  actually be like the fountain of youth, don't you think?  That's exactly what they were  doing and that was the ultimate  that they figured out.  What was the ultimate for  Rockefeller?  Rockefeller realized that he had to make products to break down  chromosome 2 no matter what.  The more that they attack  chromosome 2, the better it  would be for their business.  So that's effectively what the  GLP one, GLP 2 and GLP three  drugs are doing.  So I would just tell you the  answer for those those drugs and I will tell you this.  Do I think that people who are  taking the GLP one drugs, if you lived in tropical sun while you  took them, could you shrink  yourself but still not kill  yourself by lowering your  heroplasmy?  I think it's possible, but is  anybody going to sign up to do  that study by themselves?  Probably not if you know the  story.  That I'm telling you, you  absolutely have to be a fucking  moron to take the GLP one drugs, because anybody who has got a  nice car will tell you if you  take the tailpipe off and Weld  shut the exhaust, you know the  engine's going to die.  Well.  I don't think any of the people  taking these drugs have ever  been told this from, from how  shall we say, an informed  consent way.  Why?  Because all those people that I  told you that are controlling  the peer review process in the  United States will never let  these papers out, which is why I told you about the blouse study  that just came out.  I'm hoping you guys can look at  it.  You can see what I've said.  Most of what I told you here  I've blasted on Twitter the last couple of days because I think  it's important and I don't think people really understand how it  ties to this whole story, you  know, that I laid out for you,  that began for me really, when I was a smart ass at Charity  Hospital.  Yeah.  And, you know, that's kind of  that kind of experience.  The JFK movie, The whole story,  it just is fortunate that it all happened around my training and  that I wasn't close minded and  just learned what you know the  guys at LSU taught me in  biochemistry.  Like I always kept an open mind  about this and I can tell you  when I found out the story about left and from that Lady, that  was the greatest gift I think I  was ever given as a physician.  Because when you learn about a  new hormone and you have no idea how it works and you find out  it's in the sub Q5, but then you find out that this is ancient  pathway in mammals that goes  back all the way 65,000,000  years.  You got it.  You got to say, OK, I need to  figure this shit out.  You know, this, this is this is  this is a big story.  And it's like that, I told, like I told Rick Rubin when I was on  this podcast with Huberman.  It's the greatest story never  told to any doctor.  And I thought by telling Rick  and by telling Huberman bits and pieces of the story that would  even stimulate, you know, a  Rockefeller MK Ultra, DARPA  trained PhD at Stanford.  And dude, he's, he's acted the  opposite way.  He told me he's going to have me on his podcast.  We're going to do this.  We're going to talk about that.  Now he's out there talking shit  about me and it just goes to  show you him talking shit about  me doesn't bother me.  It goes to the point that I'm  trying to make to use that the  propaganda to keep us away from  the truth as positions.  This means that we'll long,  we'll continue to be compliance  with this program to harm the  public.  And I know when you took your  oath and I took my oath, that's  not what we signed up for.  We didn't sign up to be Joseph  Mengola, but effectively that's  what centralized medicine has  turned us all into, and we don't know it.  We're not complicit in terms of  we don't have the intent, but we are complicit because we have a  biochemical paradigm only, and  we don't understand that the  biochemical paradigm is  controlled by the biophysics  from the outside in.  So instead of looking at the  world like this, we should be  looking at it outside in and you know, many things have happened  in my career that have happened  in your careers, like when the  story of epigenetics came out  and Duke in 2003 and we found  out that epigenetics is more  important than genetics.  And then, you know, Philip Paul  writes a a book that says, you  know, maybe it's time for us to  forget about genes.  Maybe it's not important.  Like I know there's there's a  chance out there for the young  doctors to get the real story.  But I'm going to tell you, I  believe a silverback gorillas  that we are the talk.  We have a duty to teach those  kids because I can tell you the  pH DS like Uberman, the pH DS  that are in LSU, both in  Shreveport and New Orleans, my  friend Sean, they don't know,  but we just talked about on this podcast and they don't know it  because they're never going to  be taught it in their  curriculums lives not the end  all be all.  I mean, frankly, we're all  institutionalized and thought  process to some degree.  I mean, it wasn't until, I mean, I was walking myself out of it  for years and then in I guess  2021 hour, well, whenever it  was, you were on Huberman Spot  or Brick's podcast with  Huberman.  I heard that podcast and it  bothered me.  I just have to tell you, Jack,  it bothered me so bad.  It rattled me to my core.  I listened to that three hour  podcast 4 times because I wanted you to be wrong.  I mean like, because what you  said in that podcast meant that  almost half of what I learned in Med school, if not more, was not true.  Or 99 if you remember in that  podcast?  He asked.  I know what you said.  I remember what you said.  His friend Eddie Chang is also a neurosurgeon at UCSF.  Said 50%.  I said no, it's 99.9%.  And it's funny, I started  playing with it like I was like, OK, well, let's just try.  So, you know, like I had a, I  had a knee injury, I had an  ankle fracture.  I started playing with the red  light panel.  I started playing with this.  I started trying to, I had a  patient, I started making him  getting in an ice bath.  And frankly, I did it not  because I thought you were  right.  I was trying to see if you were  wrong.  I was like this doesn't it can't be this.  Well, Sean, I got to tell you  this story because you'll  appreciate it, because you're  making me laugh, because, you  know, normally I would probably  be getting on people like people listen this podcast and say  Jack's being awfully nice to  these guys.  I'm going to tell you.  Right.  The reason why you really made  me laugh with the last story, I  got to tell you this because  once you know this history, then you'll say, OK, that's why he's  not making fun of us.  So Einstein comes up with the  miracle paper to discover the  photoelectric effect in 19 O  five.  OK, he publishes it.  Nobody can fucking believe what  he publishes.  What does the United States do  in 2000 and 1921?  They hire a guy named George  Milliken to prove Einstein  wrong.  Milliken does all the  experiments because remember  when Einstein wrote his paper,  everything was a thought  experiment in his head.  Milliken does the the Seminole  work cruise Einstein right?  You know what centralized  medicine does?  They give Milliken his Nobel  Prize before Einstein.  Einstein doesn't get it till the next year.  So I just want you to realize.  That when you say this to me,  the reason I can't be mad at you is because if Einstein got used, yeah, I don't expect, you know,  anybody to come out and pat me  on the back.  I'm not really interested in  being pat on the back.  What makes me happy is that 2  guys in Louisiana who went to  the same health system I did,  you're at the end of your career and you're both going.  You know, there's something  about this story that just  perturbs me.  And you know what?  That's a good thing.  I'm going to tell you.  I wish maybe this was my  mistake, that because Chantal  pushed me out three years ago.  To have that podcast with you,  Herman, maybe I should have done it early.  Maybe I was wrong and she was  right.  And she said, look.  Maybe you need to put the target on your back so that everybody  else gets woken up.  Because she said to me, she  goes, if you don't do this, she  goes, she goes, you're assuming  that somebody else out there is  going to figure this out.  She goes, how many other  Einsteins are out there?  He's the only guy that came up  with those 4 miracle papers.  How do you know what you're  saying is not as important as  that?  And I looked at her.  I said, well, that makes my ego  feel really good.  But, you know, and I thought  about it and I said, you know,  she's kind of right, like kind  of right.  It's not going to be, there's  not going to be anybody else out there that was at Charity  Hospital from 1986 through 1999  to have the experiences that  allowed me to figure all of this shit out.  And then when you think about at the same time, the stuff with  Chernobyl goes on and radio  synthesis comes out.  I mean, you and I were both  taught.  Radiation was a really bad  thing.  And why?  Why is this story even more  important?  You know, your buddy over here  said he read Haslam's book.  We'll think about what what  Doctor Mary's monkeys really  found.  They took high end gamma  radiation, irradiated the  fucking SV 40, and they made the Cancer more virulent.  That's exactly what we just said happened in Chernobyl.  So realize that this  radiosynthesis story is huge.  And what are we doing now to  people?  We're fucking taking people with cancer and radiate them.  It's about the stupidest fucking thing you could ever do if you  really think about it, because  you're making their cancers grow even more.  You got it.  It doesn't make any sense.  Like what we need to do is we  need to get them in the sun.  We need them to get to make  water from CCO, from near  infrared light.  That's the reason why that slide that I always show about UVA  light and near infrared light,  that is Doctor Becker's work.  That is how I took Becca from  1977 to 2026.  You know, do I hope that Levin  Martin Picard, his wife Naroshan Morogan, who's a biophysicist,  like listen to this podcast and  go, all right, fuck Jack is just keep punching us in the face  because this is this is, you  know, the, the big problem I  have.  And I think you guys understand  this as doctors, when you say  something as extraordinary as  I'm, I'm saying it to you.  People turn around and say you  need extraordinary proof.  That's some bad news for you  guys.  I have the extraordinary proof,  OK?  The problem is just what you  said, Sean, which is why you  made me chuckle, said Jack.  I wanted you to be wrong.  And guess what, Sean, I'm going  to tell you that 18 months for  me and Vanderbilt, I felt  exactly the same fucking way you did.  Because you know what?  I realized if I wasn't wrong.  I just wasted 40 years of my  life becoming a neurosurgeon and you want to know something?  That's the reason why I'm an  ornery cock sucker, because I  realize that for the 1st 40  years of my life I wasn't as  smart.  As I thought it was.  That's where I'm at and it's  kind of hard to admit that to a  group of doctors, but I will  tell you that I'm far past that  now.  I mean, I've gone through this  now for 2025 years and what I've laid out all the pieces and  parts and you have to realize on my Patreon blog every single  part that I've told you today,  like not only am I telling you,  but I'm laying out the science  behind it like with sites and.  When you read it, you go Jesus  Christ.  You know, and I, I get this from all my members.  So like, dude, it's so hard to  read.  I said, yeah, but you don't  realize I'm not really writing  this for you.  I'm writing for some future  biophysicist or physicist to go, this fucking guy figured this  shit out in 1990s and we still  are screwing people over, you  know, and it'll be 2050 then.  And I do, I believe by me  putting this stuff down in  Patreon on my website form  everywhere it is.  It's like the Library of  Alexandria that two guys, like  you may say, you know what, fuck it, I'm going to retire, but I'm going to go back and teach the  medical students some part of  this story to fire them up so  that they know about where they  were in Shreveport.  Andrew Marino was actually here. He had a Sikh sanctuary after  the government came after him  when he was at Syracuse and he  showed up in Louisiana.  Think about that.  The orthopedic surgeons at LSU,  Shreveport, now this is a big  statement for me to make  because, you know, neurosurgeons and orthopedic surgeons don't  get along so well.  I think the orthopedic surgeons  in Shreveport are owed a debt of gratitude by humanity by giving  Andrew Marino sanctuary so that  he was able to finish his life  and continue to fight Becker's.  Battle after Becker's dead and  you know Andrew.  Is going to be dead soon too.  And that's why I hope you guys  talk to him because as far as  I'm concerned, he's like one of  the apostles, man.  Becker to me is like Jesus and  Becker in terms of Jesus didn't  know really what he found, but  what he really found.  And I tell people isn't it kind  of upsets people if you're a  scientist, but I'm going to tell you guys because I don't care.  Every time I look at the center  panel, the Sistine Chapel, and  you see those two fingers.  Becker's work is is the white  plaster between them.  That's awesome how I feel.  And that story Cannot die,  cannot die with AI, and I think  it's going to die with AII.  Don't think this is ever going  to get out.  Yeah, I have concerns about AI  big time.  I think it's a big a big wet  blanket to smother us all.  Well, I think it is too.  And that's why I think doing  podcasts like this, it's kind of important because I want people  to listen to this and don't  believe a goddamn word that I  said to you.  I want you to Fact Check  everything I said.  But your duty is once you Fact  Check me and you say shit, then  you need to become a savage and  you need to start teaching  people.  Look, we need to start doing  things differently.  Like, you know, and people, you  know, people say to me all the  time, I mean, this is a perfect  example.  I'm living in El Salvador now  because it's not safe for me to  live in my own country.  But you see, I'm sitting on a  5000 square foot teeth deck.  I'm going to show you this.  On the deck is a sundial.  This sundial tells me where to  go on the deck at the time of  the day.  I built the whole house so that  I can sit in the sun the right  time of the day.  And you see, I'm a an uncoupled  apple type, Irish, German  descent freckles and I can stay  out here all day.  But you were told by the  dermatologist at LSU you'll die. I got news for you.  I'm proving to you that  Chernobyl doesn't make you die.  It actually is built into us.  And the problem is you need to  know how to use it and.  That's the stuff.  That we need to be teaching the  kids in medical school now and  we can't.  Because if I say this where I go to a medical meeting, you know,  somewhere in Louisiana and have  this discussion, you know what  the state board's going to do.  You know what some of your idiot friends are going to do?  They're your colleagues, but  they're really not your friends. I mean, look at the next state  next to you.  Look what they're doing to marry Taliban in Texas.  I mean, it's a perfect example.  Why?  Like, people ask me all the  time, Jack, do you put all your  Patreon stuff and this and that  behind a paywall because you're  trying to make money?  I'm like.  Dude, do you?  Fucking really Think I need your 5 bucks?  No, what, what is the the whole  point?  The whole point is the medical  boards, the people that that  don't want this information out, they're not going to pay to get  you have to get behind that wall and read it.  And why do I make it $5 a month? It's very simple.  What's the cost of coffee like  if you going to argue with me  for 5 bucks for a cost of  coffee.  I mean just think about the  conversation we had today.  We didn't know each other.  Was this worth you buying me a  coffee?  Absolutely 2.  I can get you 2 coffees bro.  There you go.  And that's that's the point that I try to make to people.  But instead people say, Nah, I'd rather spend 250 bucks and go  see the Saints get their ass  kicked.  OK, if you want Circus Maximus.  You know, go for it.  But realize when you go in  there, you're going to see all  the Ochsner signage.  You're going to see all the  things for BIATA and and  Ozempic.  That's how they're making their  money.  And when you understand that  they're all plugged in the same  system, or you watch the Saints  on TV in Louisiana and then  every other commercial is a  fucking drug commercial, you  start to realize they are really fucking dumbing us.  Down.  You know, like I, I tell you,  last time I was in Louisiana, I  had a really interesting  discussion with a couple of  doctors because we're talking  about what's going on in  downtown in Louisiana with LCMC, Ochsner and some of the other  groups.  And I know a lot about what's  going on in your neck of the  woods and Alexandria and  Lafayette, how things are  changing there in terms of  healthcare.  And one of the things that I was stunned at, and I'll share this  with you, I probably shouldn't,  but you know, I'm officially  retired.  I'm not going back anymore.  One of the things I was stunned  about, about central Louisiana,  is there any time we had trauma  patients come in and I had to  take care of them?  Do you know that we had to call  your city up to get blood  products?  And I want you to think about  all the things that we talked  about in here.  Do you, do you understand why  this is such a big deal when  you're a trauma surgeon?  Which neurosurgeon is like?  Blood is the lifeline to  regenerating people.  I just told you that from  Becker's work.  And what are they doing now in  hospitals?  Like if you're not a hospital  based physician, you're never  going to know this.  Like if you're a General  practitioner, you probably use a hospital, so you never fucking  go in there.  But what I hope people do by  listening to this, they go and  start talking to each other.  You need to start guys in the  hospital, say, do me a favor,  put an order in on one of your  patients for six units of  platelets and tell me what they  tell you.  You'll be stunned.  Go, go, go.  Put an order in, you know, for  blood to be given you.  You will see that the  administrators will come down  and have a discussion with the  trauma surgeon as well.  We can't do this.  Like, how is it you're a level  trauma center and you don't have a blood bank or a level 2?  Like you got that situation in  central Louisiana and in  Lafayette right now.  You got to start asking yourself these questions.  Go, this is a bigger story, my  friend, than just the drug  companies.  Like I'm telling you, these guys running these hospital systems,  they're as fucking corrupt as  you can imagine.  And most of them are tied in  with the governors of these  states.  I'm going to tell you, I know  Mary Tally Bowden is really up  to her neck with Abbott, but the old Louisiana governor who I can speak on because that's when I  was there, John Bel Edwards was  the most fucking corrupt guy  ever.  And if I told you the stories  that I knew, I told Sean, your  two friends that were the  doctors that you got involved  with me, I told them some  stories about John Bel Edwards  that I can't even talk about  publicly, that I knew about what happened during.  COVID.  If people knew those stories,  they would understand why this  podcast is really important.  They're not trying to help us.  Everybody in government is  fucking trying to kill us and  they're doing everything  possible to do it.  And they're hoping that you  continue stay asleep because  you're watching the Pelicans,  you're watching the the freaking Saints, or you're worried about  the baseball team.  I don't even know what the  baseball team's name.  It used to be the Zephyrs down  there, or you going to a concert or you going to the French  Quarter.  Go to Mr. BS.  Whatever it is, I want you to  understand that I need you to  pay a little bit more attention  to the truth and have an open  mind.  Yeah, you're going to get some  bullshit thrown at you here and  there.  But I can tell you I'm not going to throw bullshit at you.  Why?  I'm not trying to fix our  country to the politics anymore. I'm trying to fix our profession that has been absolutely  decimated through this  Rockefeller liaison that goes  all the way back to the Flex  report.  But when people find out that  the real morphogenesis from John D to David, David is how we got  Epstein, Epstein is how we got  the pub smear guys.  That's how we got.  Peer review completely taken  away from us.  The reason why?  US three, we're morons for most  of our career.  That's the reason why.  And we weren't smart enough to  go the next step, to ask the  next question.  And why?  Because they didn't teach us  that at LSU.  They didn't teach us that at  college.  We didn't learn that in high  school.  And certainly our parents didn't tell us.  Parents told us that we should  follow authority all the time.  If you really look at the path  to being a doctor, it's very  centralized.  You know, they're filtering you  so that you're a good soldier  for the paradigm in power.  But you have to realize when you see it that way, you realize  that there's a negative to that. That means that you're part of  groupthink.  And now, like when you're an  awake doctor and you're  decentralized, like I'm trying  to do the the doctors.  I mean, look, I do you  understand why?  I know there's people that don't like me very much.  I get it.  But here's the problem.  And This is why I'm such a hard  ass.  I'm pretty fucking smart, so I  like the dumb asses to come at  me because I'm a fucking great  white shark and I'm going to  come take them all out.  That's the truth.  I I got no more time for any of  these idiots that trained me in  LSU.  The the guys who I have ultimate respect for.  I can tell you right now that  would be.  Probably David Klein, Nicholas  Bazan, who's still alive in the  Department of Ophthalmology.  I would put Marino in that  group.  John Kent, who used to run oral  surgery in, in in OMFS, if it  wasn't for him.  I don't become a neurosurgeon,  and I think that's about it in  terms of doctors.  Now, are there other people on  my training that I'll never  forget?  Yeah.  The Crnas that trained me,  those, those, those CNRSCRNAS  linked me to the Haslam story.  You may not know this, but one  of our anesthesiologist dad ran  the primate center that was in  New.  Orleans One in Mandeville.  Well, no.  This is in New Orleans.  This is that.  Tulane.  That eventually got relocated to Covington where it is now.  Now it's a level 4 bio weapons  program.  But his name is Rheopol.  And you go look at your Haslam  book, look it up.  You'll see that name in there.  While his son trained me in  anesthesia.  So when you see the pieces and  parts.  All of these, all of these  things are important.  There was a lot of people that I crossed paths, was in Louisiana, that I don't think the story I  told you today could have ever  come to fruition if they didn't  play their role.  Makes sense.  That's amazing.  Is what it?  It's not what it's not.  Yeah.  So can I ask you a semi clinical question then, since we talked  about basically where it's solar battery, I don't know if that's  a good term for you, but I kind  of that's what I took.  We're a little bit, we're a  little bit more sophisticated.  Than that but when you  understand and I would tell you  just read my decentralized  medicine series from one to  where I think right now I'm at  98.  You read all of those and you're going to find out that the  implications of the story I told you today are going to shock  you.  Some of the same things that  happened in Chernobyl are  happening in ourselves.  Some of the same things that  happened in the sun are  happening in you right now.  And when you see that develop  for you, then you're going to  go, OK, the clinical story.  Like I just had an ESPN reporter here literally sitting 10 feet  away from me.  She's got a disease called  vitiligo.  You guys have heard that?  Yeah.  She was really interested in the picture that I always show on  Twitter of the black lady who I  fixed her vitiligo in three or  four months.  I can't fix that Lady without  the story.  I told you about Chernobyl.  I told you how I did it.  You'd fucking shit your pants.  But it's it's a cool story.  But she's doing a documentary on it because she got that  condition from being a reporter, and she's doing kind of what you guys are doing with me today.  She's putting herself out there, putting her job at risk by  actually trying to get that  story out.  Why?  Because her vitiligo right now,  it's like 98% healed just by  listening to what I'm doing,  even though she's in front of TV cameras.  All the time.  Wow, So I have patients in my  clinic now that'll ask me like,  well, doc, is there a difference between and my answer is always  yes, but maybe I'm wrong.  But their their, their question  is always you tell me I need to  get up and get in the sunlight.  But what if I can't get in the  sunlight?  What if it's overcast?  Or can I just use a red light  panel?  And I'm like, I think there's  benefits to red light panels,  but I don't think there's a  substitution for the sun.  I'm glad you said it that way  because it's the truth.  This is my answer and I'm giving you my advice as a doctor what I would tell my patients.  OK.  If you can't get up for the  sunrise by term life insurance,  that's why I call them.  The.  Single most important part of  the sun is actually AM sunlight  like if you can get people like  here since I'm at the 13th  latitude the day never changes  here.  Like it even changes in  Louisiana cuz you guys,  Shreveport, you're probably  3132, but when I was in New  Orleans, we were 28 and even,  you know, when we're coming to  June, the solstice, I mean a  couple what, a week from now is  the equinox.  Equinox in the Northern  hemisphere is when you have 12  hours and 12 hours of darkness  day and night from March 20th  all the way to June 21st, days  in Louisiana will get longer.  So you guys will get an extra  hour, hour and a half.  Here I only get an extra half  hour and.  Then change.  It doesn't change much.  So for me, like this morning, I  mean, you guys saw the shit show that we had with technology  where we had to do all the  crazy.  Things.  Why don't I mind?  You know, I'm sitting out here  on my deck in the sun.  I've been out here since this  morning from 6:00 AM.  It's now where you are, I guess  it's 12:43 where I am.  It's 11:43 because we don't do  daylight savings times.  Right.  So I've been out here for 5 1/2  hours.  OK, that's it.  And.  The reason why this is  important, if you go back and re listen to your own podcast, you  do with me because I really want you to understand this AM son,  is when you're getting infrared  A and near infrared light.  What does that do to CCO?  That's when you make the most  metabolic water.  That's when you use an ATP.  As soon as the first bit of UVA  light hits your eye, your skin  or your fat and it gets signaled through what neuropsin.  Neuropsin is called OPN 5 for  those scientists to listening.  That's what makes nitric oxide.  That's what turns off the ATP  story.  So in other words, you're using  the Archaean sun.  That's where melanin on the  surface becomes usually  important to you.  You're no longer making ATP,  which is also the reason why the acronym that I know both of you  learned because I did.  We always tell people to eat.  Like a king in the morning, then a Prince at lunch and a pauper  at night.  You don't realize that the  ancients figured this out, that  if you eat more early in the  day, that's when you're making  the ATP at nighttime.  You shouldn't be eating it all.  So what I tell people is you're  using the Archaean sun and  melanin.  To control the mitochondrial  matrix from outside in AS.  Soon as you get the signal of UV light, now you know most of your people, even though you're in a  good latitude, they're at work,  they're not never getting the UV signal.  So you realize that everybody's  screwed.  That means that they're having  to use their ATP way longer and  that's the reason why they're  eating more food.  Because what is the food?  Designed to do.  It's a photosynthetic barcode  that augments the Archaean  battery.  What are you trying to do?  You're trying to use more of the Archaean battery than the ATP  story.  This is why you always hear me  being so controversial when I  say food doesn't matter.  I'm telling you exactly why I  say it now, because it doesn't.  But you have to be solar powered to get the benefit.  And you are correct in saying to me, Jack, most of my patients  are rhinos.  I mean, that's what you're  effectively saying to me.  Because what?  What does it mean when you can't get in?  That light means that you have  armor of a rhino.  You don't have skin like in a  elephant.  So how can their brain be big?  And this is the reason why these people can't think.  This is the reason why they make bad choices.  This is why you always hear me  say these are the dopamine  people in your life.  Those are the energy vampires.  Like they say it all the time.  I have doctors.  A doctor yesterday on on Twitter said to me, look, Jack, my  joints are falling apart and I'm on hormone replacement theory.  I just need an answer from you.  Should I keep taking the  hormones?  And I said, you don't realize it because you're a doctor.  You don't make any hormones  naturally.  That's why you're taking them.  And you don't realize your  joints are falling apart because of the story I told you about  Becker.  You're never in the sun.  So realize what you're doing.  If you want to know the truth,  you want to feel better, quit  your fucking job as a doctor.  Or just do your job as a doctor, say two or three days a week.  Like that's what I did when I  was actively practicing the last 20 years of my life.  I'm going to tell you what I  did.  I moved my surgery schedule up.  Started my first case at 8:00 in the morning.  OK, made sure I finished at  three.  I only work three days a week.  I meaning the clinics, I would  do my surgeries and I was very,  very fast at surgery.  Chantal will tell you that.  Really good at it.  But what did I do with my  anesthesiologist?  I made them recover my patients  in the courtyard where the sun  was.  And you know what?  They couldn't believe that my  patients would get rid of all  their anesthetic gases like this and they'd be able to go home.  I actually was able to do  craniotomies and send people  home the same day because the  anesthesiologist worked with me. They didn't understand it like  you guys right now understand.  More of Jack Cruz than any  doctor I worked with.  Why?  Because I couldn't talk to them  about this because if I did, I'd be in front of the state medical board.  So understand what I'm saying to you.  What you makes me happy.  I I never met you before, but it tells me you're a good dude.  You're you're telling people the truth.  AM light is irreplaceable.  Every podcast, every influencer, they always ask me what's the  single number one most important thing for people to do?  The fucking sunrise.  Never miss another one.  If you miss it, you're a retard. It's as simple as that.  And and you want to know The  funny thing about it?  Where did that?  Where did I get that knowledge?  This is going to shock both of  you from the monk who sold his.  Ferrari.  There's a passage in there where Julian Battle, who's the lawyer  that leaves his job, sells his  Ferrari.  He goes to see the monks on the  top of the mound and one of the  monks tell him.  In a human.  Life You're designed to see  25,000 sunrises.  At the time I read the book, I  thought to myself, how many  sunrises have I seen?  It was less than 50.  And then I said to myself, OK,  now I know.  Why I got the problems I got and what did I realize was my number one problem?  My job.  So what did I do?  I mean, you guys know what a  neurosurgeon does.  I had to retool my job to fit  this whole thing.  Like I realized the answer  wasn't taking drugs and hormone  replacement therapy and all this other bullshit.  The answer was I had to fix the  solar palette panel problems so  that I could keep things going.  And what did I do over that 20  years?  I stopped doing surgeries that I really like to do that.  Kept me in.  All day, like aneurysm surgery,  AVM surgery, brain tumors.  I love doing that stuff.  But guess what?  It was, it was no good for me,  you know?  And then I had to think, OK, how what good am I for my patients  if I'm not good enough for  myself?  You know, that was the mindset  that I had.  And I said, what did doctors  get?  Taught in the Rockefeller  regime.  Oh, no, you do everything  possible for your patients.  Sacrifice everything you know.  And then I thought about, wow,  this is really affecting me.  When's the last time I went to  my daughter's birthday party?  When's the last time I took my  kid to a soccer game?  I dude, I wasn't.  Doing any of that shit and.  I thought to myself, you know,  that's.  Bad enough I said, but I'm not  getting any outside time.  I I would go to work when it was dark and come home when it was  dark.  And that's like, OK, now you  want to know why you're a fat  fuck and your knees falling  apart at 40 years old?  OK, I figured out pretty fast  like this is the downside of  being smart.  Like I'm like, I'm the biggest  dumb ass you can ever imagine  and I'm looking in the freaking  mirror and I'm going just as you said, Sean.  If this is right, I should be  able to fix my problems without  any help.  And what did I do about the  famous podcast?  I haven't talked about this a  long time but I did podcast a  long time ago and I told people  when I did it and I figured out  the leptin prescription in the  cold thermogenesis protocol.  I lost 111 lbs in 11 months and  I lost total of 157 lbs and I  think 14.  And now looking back on it, I've probably put on fifty of those  pounds back on, mainly because I went back to work during COVID  to figure out what they were  doing.  And I've been here, retired, I'd say.  For.  A year and a half trying to  reverse the process.  You know, unfortunately, I'm  finding myself right now too  much on social media trying to  get the story out.  But I'm telling you guys why?  Because now that the story's  been out in podcasts, now people want to read about, you know,  how I did it, like the blogs, I  will tell you the CPC blogs.  And just so you guys know, I  call them CPCS for something  that you went through your  training.  They're called clinical.  Pathologic conferences, you  know, it's like our M&M  conference that we have over  students and what am I doing  there?  I'm telling you exactly how I  figured out.  Piece by piece.  Laying it all out and then I try to occasionally throw in a  clinical blog like you said, you said, Jack, I want, I want to  understand how the theory meets  the practice.  Like what am I telling my  patients?  Right.  You you happen to ask me the the greatest question because AM  sunlight is how you hydrate  melanin.  Hydrating melanin is how you  make the one Pico Amir, that's  actually photo repair in a  nutshell.  Like your friend over here is  getting ready to read Becker's  book.  He's going to read Marino's  book.  I just gave him the punchline.  So he's going to go through  reading these books now going,  OK, I know what I know what this is all about.  But when you see what Becker.  Did and Marino Did.  And then you.  Distill it down to that you go.  Oh.  My God like.  This guy's whole life was based  around figuring that shit out,  and then they buried it, and  then that's when, you know,  everybody takes the information  a different.  Way like I can tell you for me.  There's the biggest.  Punch in the mouth I ever got.  I always, I always tell people  this when Mike Tyson said  everybody's got a plan till you  get punched in the mouth.  No.  I'm going to, I'm just going to  tell you that's kind of what  happened to me.  And you know, it may not happen  to you when you read it, but I  promise.  You, because you're a doctor.  There's one thing I do know  about all doctors, they're  fascinated by biology, and when  they find out the biology is not a fundamental science that  biophysics is, and everything  that you thought in biology was  unique is actually in physics.  There's one equation that  everything that we talked about  today comes down to.  It's called the lagrarian.  And if you saw the equation,  it's L = T * V.  And when you find out what V is, V is everything you and I have  talked about today.  T is everything Rockefeller  medicine has done when you boil  it down to that equation.  And you understand what that  equation means and how it it's  tied to confinement, the  electromagnetic force in the  ultra weak force.  And you see how I figured this  shit all out and not having a  background in physics, like I'm  going to tell you I'm a very  curious motherfucker.  I really AM.  And I find out that I've been  lied to.  I'm I'm the wrong person to hang around with, not stop.  I mean, Chantelle will tell you  I am.  Like before we talked today, I  was writing on my form.  Because believe it or not, two  of my members asked me the  question about rhinos and  elephants tied to Michael  Crawford's, you know, Seminole  book on DHA, which is tied to  the evolution of the human  brain.  And I said, man, do I, do I tell them the truth or I try to make  this stupid?  And I said, not fucking.  I'm just going to tell them the  truth.  And I know when I tell people  this, they're going to sit there and they're going to go because, you know, there's religious.  People out there that believe,  you know, it's only 6000 years  old.  They don't believe in evolution  and all that shit.  And I'm like, that's fine  because it doesn't matter if you believe in evolution or not  because what does Genesis say in the beginning?  Let there be light.  Well, that's true.  That's what I'm telling you.  The only problem with that story is God didn't tell you the  recipe.  If you listen to this podcast,  yeah, we're talking about the  recipe.  That's that's really the key.  And you may not like how I  figured the recipe out because  it is a 4.6 billion year old  story.  I would agree with you though,  the last 6000 years are probably the most interesting part.  But I'm not interested in half  truth.  I want to know the whole truth  before they lay me down or burn  me, whatever they're going to  do.  From the time I was a little boy growing up in New York City and  seeing the T Rex and then seeing the Archaeopteryx, the first  flying dinosaur.  And I thought to myself, I never thought in a million years that  third grade trip that would have had such a huge impact on my  life.  But it did.  And like these facts, like the  facts I learned about Chernobyl, the the, the fact that Doctor  Klein pushed me to do this  Becker thing, like this should  be a story to everybody out  there.  You may not want to do  something, but if somebody who  you respect or somebody's doing  something to give you an  education you don't have, it's  the mark of an educated mind.  It takes something you  fundamentally don't understand  think about it and then come up  with how it fits into your  current existence.  And I'm going to tell you from  the time I was a little boy, I'm going to say time I was 2 years  old, I've been the most curious  person I've ever met.  When my family always tells me  when I was a kid, I'd never shut up asking questions.  I'd ask questions about  everything.  That's why they sent me to the  museums.  They said here's a dollar, get  on the seven train and go take  the the train.  At that time, the subway was  $0.35.  That left me $0.30 to get a, a  pretzel and a Coke.  That's what I did.  You know, I, I learned the  entire New York City subway  system when I was literally 7-8  years old.  I know I didn't have a a parent. I didn't have a parent with me.  I would go to the museums.  And the rich kids from, you  know, 5th Ave. and Park Ave.  would hire these, you know, nice Jewish ladies that would  volunteer and take the kids  around to teach them all this  stuff.  I didn't have the money to pay  for this.  I just followed them around.  And listen, let me tell you  something.  Looking back on my career, I  think that those those ladies  taught me more than I learned at LSU.  That's the truth.  I hate to say it.  I know it's another punch in the mouth, but it fits, Sean, with  what I told you earlier that you got it.  You got to realize when you're a centralized doc, 99% of what  you've been told is horseshit.  And you know, you don't realize  it's horseshit until you get to  this biophysical level.  And I'm going to tell you when  you see it for yourself the  first time, I promise both of  you this, when you really see  it, bro, that's when you should  start writing because that'll be some of the best stuff you'll  ever put out in your life.  I'm not kidding you.  It's it's if you know what it's  like, it's like taking the  grapes off a vine and squeezing  the shit out of it for the best  that's inside of you.  Why?  Because it's the essence.  Of who you are.  You know.  This stuff is really exciting.  I mean, it's, I think it.  Would be more exciting if I was  20 years old but.  Well, I had AI had a colleague,  he and he's older than me now,  but you know, we both talked  about it and he's, you know, I  said, you know, for the first  time I feel excited again about  medicine.  And I don't mean medicine like  we went to medical school to  learn medicine.  I mean medicine in the sense of  an observational science, trying to do things for the sake of  making mankind better.  Yep, it's exciting.  It is No I and.  And see, the fact that you can  say that on this podcast, I'm  going to tell you, it makes me  think without, you know, I only  have an ambient awareness when  you say that it makes me feel  good that we're doing this  podcast because that's not the  routine that I get on Twitter.  The the routine on Twitter from  the centralized docs, bro, they, they are not interested in this  at all.  They're interested in punching  their time clock, getting their  Rockefeller money and their  grants going to their, you know, shows, getting their free lunch, you know, in the clinic every  day.  It's a bad scene and really bad  scene.  And the problem is I tend not to talk to those docs anymore.  I go straight to their patients  because I think teaching the  patients that their doctors are  are fucking Jeffrey Epstein's is a better way to do it.  Like I, I want to tear them  down.  You know, I, I, I went off on  Asimo Ultra.  You know, the, the, the Brits  are going after his medical  license.  I put a tweet out.  Yes.  I said about time.  If anybody needs their license  taken away, it's this guy.  He killed his own father with  the job.  You know, to me, how can you be  a doctor?  And you know, he says, he says  to me now he goes, I think  that's pretty harsh criticism.  He said, you know, you woke up.  I said, yeah, but how come I  knew about the jobs before you  did?  I said, remember, they're  killing people on your organ.  They're not killing them on my  organ.  Why was I able to figure it out  before you?  I'm going to tell you why,  because you were too busy liking your press clippings over the  NHS, you know, being on TV.  All the time.  No, you have a duty of your  patients 1st.  And the fact that you killed  your own father, to me, that's  penance that you'll have to deal with.  But do I think he's the kind of  guy that needs his license taken away so they can listen to a  podcast like this and go through what you're going through.  The real essence of a doctor,  You don't need a license.  Everything that we talked about  today, you can sit down with  somebody outside, have a glass  of wine with them or a cold  water, or do you cheer them,  deplete what?  Whatever you want to do.  And we can sit there and have  this discussion.  And you know what?  It's more beneficial because now you can spend time with your  patients instead of having to  worry about, you know, your  schedule and seeing 80 people.  There's nothing better than  sitting where I'm sitting right  now having this discussion with  somebody else.  Now I'll tell you funny story.  About 3 weeks ago, my Medtronic  Rep for spine, he came to El  Sourdras, sat in the chair right next to us where we're talking  now.  I hadn't seen the guy in 2025  years.  I made this guy millions of  dollars.  He's now falling apart.  He comes down here, he goes.  I see what you're doing.  It's amazing.  So guess what?  He's now leaving Nashville and  he's got to relocate here.  My.  Friends but.  My friends are finding him a  place because Nashville has made him really sick.  Yeah.  And I told him, I said, now you  know why I left in 2013.  As soon as they put those fiber  optic rings around there, I knew what it meant.  Everything that hooks up to  those things, you're basically  the monkey in the microwave  oven.  And it's sad to see what's  happening, but why?  It was a good story when he came here and he said, because I  always knew you were smart.  He goes.  But I never realized this is  really what you are working on  the whole time.  Because when you stop putting  the hardware on people and left  millions of dollars on the table and everybody thought you were  crazy.  I said I was crazy, but I was  crazy in the sense that I was  harming and hurting people.  And I realized when I was, I  stopped doing it right away.  Like when I tell you the day  that I changed, I had five AC DS on the schedule with this Rep.  I cancelled them all.  I said we're going to do this  different.  And he knew it.  He knew the story.  Everybody in Nashville knew that I changed on a dime.  And that's why I said to you,  when you guys figure it out, it  will be a lightning bolt that  hits you and then you're going  to find soul.  It's like you're going to have  to go through some soul  searching.  You're going to think about  patients that you really hurt,  but then you're going to  realize, now I can really help  you.  Now this is really why I filled  out that application in medical  school when I was altruistic.  Now I know that I can turn  rhinos into elephants.  Now I know I can fix somebody  with metabolic syndrome.  I can fix somebody, you know,  with this problem or that  problem.  Like the opportunities for you  to be a doctor, like the people  that I've helped.  It's no.  Longer in neurosurgery, you  know, it's now I can do things  with esophageal, I should say  eosinophilic esophagitis or  someone with vitiligo like these are not diseases that I ever  treated before when I was a  neurosurgeon.  But it turns out the science  that I'm uncovering this can  help these people, you know,  after they've been through the  Mayo Clinic, after they've been  through Sloan Kettering.  You know, I could tell you  stories of one of my members  who's a big EMF guy in New York. His, his grandmother got stage ovarian cancer.  I don't know, like 10-12 years  ago.  She lived in New York.  She took care of his kids.  I said, just do me a favor, buy  our house in Mexico, leave her  down there, put her on the  beach.  Sloan Kettering cut her loose  and said go home and die.  You know, make your plans.  We don't have anything else.  For you, she's Chinese descent.  And I said, I'm telling you,  she's going to tan pretty good  when you set her down there.  But she goes down there.  I think 18 months later, she  goes back to Sloan Kettering.  They can't find the tumors in  her ovaries.  Like that's the kind of shit  that I was like, look, there's  no loss to US.  Centralized medicine already  told us to go home and die.  I said, OK, well, let's try  this.  Let's feed her deuterium  depleted water, put her on the  beach and see what happens.  I guess what?  Wow.  Right.  You just go, OK, where was that  class?  You know, you know, when I was  in residency where, you know,  The thing is, to me, that's the  essence of being a doctor.  And, you know, I don't want to  catch people too late in their  disease.  I'd rather catch them earlier,  like the frustrating ones for me that are in my wheelhouse, like  Parkinson's, Alzheimer's.  ALS I've got a lot of those  people down here now, but they  come to me really late in the  game.  What I need to do is catch them  earlier in the game.  The problem is to catch them  earlier in the game, you have to rely on the centralized fox that are, you know, give them L dopa  and that's not that doesn't work out or, you know, if they have a stimulator already in their  head.  Sometimes you can, you can catch them in reverse parts of their  disease, you know, but when it's too full gone, you know, the  cells.  Yeah.  I mean, there comes a point of  no return when the matrix is is  fried and it's loaded with, you  know, iron and copper, which we  can see on an MRI.  I know that it's going to be  hard to do.  But The thing is, could you  still keep them functional so  their brain works so their  cognition doesn't go bad?  Yeah, you can do that.  I mean, there's there's other  things that you have to look at. I don't think I can can take  somebody who's got an active  tremor, get rid of it, you know, since I can put the melanin back in the substantial Niger.  But do I know what they need to  do every day to make that more  likely than not?  Do I think, you know, we need to teach neurologist to check the  resting rate of their tumors in  terms of Hertz frequencies when  they're in the sun?  Like I can tell you, people who  have Parkinson's comes to me  with tremors.  You know, we notice, we notice  that we're in there in the sun.  The tremor changes when they're  out of the sun, the tremors  worse.  So do I know that that ability  to repair and heal is still  there?  Yes.  But are you going to be able to  read that, Sean, as a doctor in  Shreveport in, I don't know, The Lancet or the New England  Journal of Medicine?  No, they're never going to let  that in The.  Literature.  That's the problem.  Yeah.  They got to keep selling L dope. Yeah, that's right.  That's that's the currency of  everything right there for sure. That's the truth.  And you know, you doctors got to stop lying to themselves.  Once you unplug from the matrix  and you do right by the  patients, you begin to realize  as a doctor you can't help  everybody.  But the people that you can  help, those are the people you  need to go all in on it.  Because if you keep treating the people who are already dead but  don't know enough to lay down,  you're going to burn out.  And that's really what's  happening to a lot of doctors  right now.  So, changing gears one second,  am I taking too much of your  time?  Jack?  I'm sorry if I are.  OK, here's the.  Question in the pool, in the  sun.  She's naked, sunbathing, so  we're good.  You, you've got something to  look at.  You're good.  That's right.  So cold thermogenesis timing,  listening just a little bit to  you and, and making this up  myself.  So now I'm going to talk to the  source.  My gestalt was best first thing  in the morning before the  sunrise and then get in the sun. Or is it more of a Band-Aid that you can use throughout the  timetable?  I don't want you ever think of  it as a Band-Aid.  Let me just tell you something.  Cold for mammals is always a  good answer.  Why?  What does it fundamentally do?  Does a lot of things, but I'm  going to give you the main take  home.  OK, when you do, CTI want you to do it grounded.  OK, meaning the best way is to  go to Tractor Supply where you  live, get a tub, copper wire out into the ground.  I'm very happy that you do it in the morning before sunlight.  In fact, I'd be really happy if  you did it as the sun rises on  you.  You saw my bathroom right over  there.  I have a house built where you  can open the door, sit in the  tub and do it just like that.  I will be honest with you, I  don't really have to do it here  because my pool is filled with  the chair and depleted water  from the volcano.  That's what Chantal sitting in  right now.  So we do it a little bit  differently here because we're  in the tropics.  But what I would say to you, CT, the main function of CT is  isotopic fractionation.  It gets.  Rid of deuterium and puts  hydrogen in you.  So let me tell you what the game is here.  The game is, is you want to get  rid of deuterium through your  sweat, through your poop,  through your exocrine system.  And it turns out melanin does  that.  What don't?  What didn't you learn in LSU?  Deuterium has an extra neutron  on it.  It's it's still hydrogen, but  it's got an extra neutron.  So it's got.  More mass.  But what's the key thing that  you need to know about it?  It's got a different magnetic  moment.  The magnetic moment of deuterium is 2.84.  Milligauss and the magnetic  moment of hydrogen is 0.8.  So when you look at that you say wow, just a little neutron.  It's a 3 to 1 magnetic moment  change.  What is that?  Melanin actually elates  deuterium and when you're  cooling, what does it do?  It gets rid of it.  What?  I don't want you to think that  deuterium is bad because it's  not you know where you're  designed to put deuterium in  your blood.  Where is it not designed to be?  In your tissues?  Where the mitochondria Why?  Because if deuterium gets in to  the matrix, that ruins the TCA  cycle and the urea cycle where  you make your best energy in the morning.  That's why you're looking at AM  sunlight.  To make use of the TCA and urea  cycle you have to see AM sun.  So why am I OK with what you  said morning morning before UV  comes up?  If you're going to ask me, the  circadian biology of cold  thermogenesis is best at that  time.  But.  Is the benefit for a guy like  you right now?  You both got in a cold tub at  this time in Louisiana.  You ain't hurting yourself.  Why?  Because what are you still  doing?  You're still getting rid of  deuteron, but you're also  shrinking the inner  mitochondrial matrix.  What is the real effect?  If I could, if I had unlimited  money, I would send you guys an  electron microscope and I would  tell you why you guys are doing  CT to do a fine needle biopsy of your skin.  Look at it and what you would  see on the electron microscope,  the Christa alignment of your  mitochondria would be perfect.  A guy named Martin Picard wrote  this paper with a lady named  Megan McManus.  They're both out of Doug  Wallace's lab.  What you would find if you  didn't do CT is that the Christa alignment wouldn't line up.  Now this is where I'm going to  freak you out.  This is going to be where  everybody goes.  Did he just say what I think he  said?  What does the alignment have to  do?  It's the same thing that CERN  does down in Switzerland.  You are lining up so that you  can take spin polarized  electrons and and make the most  incredible energy.  Why?  Because something you aren't  taught in medical school Melon,  and it's chiral and chaotic and  it's atomic structure.  So what does it do?  It's been polarized electrons.  And guess what that makes?  It makes triplet free radicals  that don't turn to heat like  when you get a sunburn.  You're making singlet C  radicals.  That's why skin turns red,  because you're making singlet  radicals out of superoxide,  hydrogen peroxide, whatever.  But when you do it the right way and you're using CIS, which is  chiral induced spin splitting,  which is what melanin does, you  make triplet free radicals.  And what does that build in you? Quantum coherence.  That is what makes an elephant  an elephant and a rhino a rhino. It's what makes us human and  makes you not a gorilla or a  chimp.  And it turns out we have that  ability on our exterior and our  interior.  But where are we really special? We have so much melanin in our  brain.  We are, we are like psychos.  That is the reason why our brain is so fundamentally different  because, you know, we just  talked about the substantial  nigra.  I know that both of you learned  in medical school, the  substantial nigra loses its  melon, you get Parkinson's.  Everybody knows that, but what  you may not know is that not  every animal has melanin in  their substantial nigra.  Turns out we're kind of unique.  Like that?  And why is that happening?  Because that part of your brain  has to make those spin polarized electrons to make energy from  ridiculous levels of radiation.  In other words, you're stepping  down the current when you do it. That's why your brain can do  some amazing things.  And when you think about what  you guys did learn about the  brain, you go, yeah, when the  nurse surgeons open their head,  the freaking thing is covered in water.  It's filled with water.  Just freaking water everywhere.  And where does that water come  from, my friend?  It's an ultra filtrated.  The blood.  Guess what?  It's filtering out all the  deterrent.  It's deterrent depleted water.  That surrounds your brain and  you are making massive amounts  of electrons from that water.  Why?  Because what did I tell you is  one of the other things that  melanin does, it charge  separates water into hydrogen,  oxygen and four electrons.  The four electrons make the DC  current.  Hydrogen is used inside the  mitochondria and you know what  oxygen is used for?  It's a terminal electronic  scepter or the mitochondria.  So you see all the parts are  being used like nature is very  crafty in how she does things  and Mellon is the key way that  you deuterium deplete.  And when you do tear and deplete inside, what are you doing?  You're making ultra weak  biophotons that are also UV.  Guess what that does actually is making melanin inside of you.  So that's the reason why CT is  important because CT shrinks  your inner mitochondrial  membrane.  It brings cytochrome 1 and  cytochrome 4 apart.  You don't want them too far  apart.  Do you know why?  When they're too far apart, you  can't tunnel electrons or  protons.  Well, what is the key thing in  biophysics, you learn the closer you are to tunneling, there's  not a big what we call Coulomb  barrier or barrier to tunnel  through.  So that's the other reason why  CT is so incredibly important  because it shrinks your inner  mitochondrial membrane.  And geometrically you can see  this.  If you had the electron  microscope, like when you guys  got in there, you would see  perfect alignment of the Criste  on the inner mitochondrial  junctions.  Like you'd say, this is amazing. It's almost like a liquid  crystalline structure manifests  and what is what did Doug  Wallace and that these guys that did this paper show us that  we're more energy efficient when we do that and guess what it  doesn't require any food into  the system which tells you.  That this whole.  Feedback system from the outside in, from melanin all the way  through.  Basically, you're running a  particle accelerator in your  matrix.  That's what's happening.  It's absolutely astounding what  we're capable of.  But you know, the real problem  is if you think about what I  just told you and what you  learned in biochemistry, like  these are like 2 worlds that  never even touch and that's the  reason why you don't get it.  And the fact that these papers  are written and they're out  there and you guys can source  them, and then you go and Jack's telling us if we had an electron microscope and a fine needle  biopsy, we could do this on each other's biohacks while we're in  the coal tub.  And here's the other thing.  You're going to be shocked at  this one.  I think you're both like, do you know another very unknown fact  for doctors, Do you know that  deuterium is the key biophysical choice?  And whether a fat cell becomes a brown fat cell or a white  adipocyte, the more deuterium  that's in your fat cell, it  becomes a storage vehicle.  Why?  Cuz it has a huge kinetic  isotope effect.  But if you take the deuterium  out, it becomes a brown fat cell and you know what brown fat  cells do right They turn your  calories into free heat, don't  they?  Oh starting to starting to make  sense to you why that if you're  on AGLP 1 drug, maybe you should start drinking deuterium  depleted water instead.  Yep, now you're beginning to  understand how the physics all  fit and when you read the papers that.  Actually tell you because this  paper is written peer reviewed.  That adipocyte morphogenesis is  tied to deuterium levels in  there.  Then you go, OK, well, where are we supposed to keep deuterium in our body?  You're supposed to keep it in  your arteries.  So just so you know this, this  will stun you more.  Do you know that?  Humans are designed to have 6X  the time of deuterium then we do glucose in our blood.  Have you ever learned that in  biochemistry?  Never.  That's a normal human.  Don't you think that if you knew that, you'd say, well, why we  focus so much on glucose and  insulin and why are we going to  talk about deuterium, which is  6X more?  You start to going, OK, well,  what happens if the deuterium  doesn't get in our blood and  stays in our skin?  Do you know who that patient is? That's a diabetic with  acanthosis Sniger cans.  That's why they get the darkness on their skin.  It's the Chernobyl story inside  out.  How about the vitiligo people?  Those are the people that make  H2O2 constantly.  That's a single free radical  destroys the melanocytes.  So you have to reverse the  process.  You know what you also find?  If you sample their blood,  you'll find out that they don't  have as much deuterium.  What's the normal amount of  deuterium that you cats should  have?  150 parts per million, same as  the ocean.  Now guess what if that number  goes down?  You're fucked.  You need to keep it in there.  Do you know what keeps it in  there?  Melanin cold thermogenesis.  How'd you like that?  So that's why I told you the  blog that I wrote a long time  ago about the mammalian dive  reflex.  It's tied directly to the story  you when you go through.  When you realize that the human  fecundity and fertility is tied  to the leptin Milano corn  pathway, then you're going to  say, so this is the reason why  monkeys are born thin and why  we're born as fat as fuck  because we have an immature  brain.  We're using that fat to reform  our brain post natally for 20  years and what else are we  doing?  We're filling these fat cells up in the last trimester with the  mother's uterium.  That's exactly.  What we're doing and then what  happens?  The baby has the little brown  fat pad that you did learn about right back here, right?  That's the only place.  And then we lose it.  Part of the chromosome #2 Pomsi  pro opium, melanocortin.  We talked about cortisol being  in this.  What's the other peptide that's  in there that you learned about? Beta endorphin?  What is that?  It's an opiate that's released  from.  UV.  Light nature designed us to be  addicted to sunlight.  Oh, and it's on chromosome too.  And you the dermatologist get  away.  How much?  How long they got away?  Telling you Sonos toxin for you. OK, explain to me why beta  endorphin is.  In pomsi.  Explain to me, then you begin to understand.  OK, now I understand Janis,  Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, Prince,  why they're all drug addicts  because they're all practicing  them.  But electrified instruments at  night never get in the sun.  They had to replace morphine and Oxycontin because they weren't  making any Betty endorphin ain't that hard to figure out, my  friend.  That's the issue with that  pathway.  Cold thermogenesis helps them.  Reset it correct in.  Fact every.  Drug addict should be in the sun doing CT.  That's how you fix them.  Well, just so you know, that's  what I drink, Ruben.  He wasn't.  A drug addict, but he should  have been because he was up  helping Metallica and ACDC.  Make albums at 4:00 in the  morning while he had sunglasses  on, I mean.  And you know, if you know  anything about Rick.  He'll tell you.  Yeah, I just.  Got in the sun and built  $1,000,000 CT deck on.  My house in Malibu and listen to Jack and I lost.  A. £100 that's how he became my  patient.  That's that's the reason why to  this day he's still my friend  and and he's funny because.  He's the.  Patient like if he listened to  this podcast, he would turn.  It off probably in 30 minutes  because he hates the science.  He's like.  Just tell me what to do.  Because all the other doctors  told me the wrong shit.  Just tell me what to do and  that's it's very, I wish I had  100,000 Rick Reubens as patients but unfortunately I've got a lot of rhinos.  That's why they're all over my  house.  I like it.  Well, look, I really, really  appreciate your.  Time today I.  Know do you have anything else  for Jack right now now.  When you disconnect the  recording, I need to ask him,  but off the record, yeah,  question.  Cool.  Cool, cool, cool.  Well, we can always edit that  part out.  So we're just going to formally  end this Doctor Cruz?  Thanks so much for for being  part of this podcast today and  been an honor to talk to you.  You've cracked my brain open it  a couple times from podcast  today.  I'm going to have to keep  everything from leaking out of  my ears.  It's crazy.  So I appreciate it so much.  Hey, no problem anytime, OK?  This is Doctor Hewitt McCullough from the Informed Health  Initiative.  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