#14-Dr. Jack Kruse

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They grew up on the Savannah, just like elephants did.
But elephants and rhinos are radically different.
Rhinos have small brains, but they're really well grounded.
That's the reason why they're always dirty.
And elephants, which you guys know, are big, huge mammals.
They have 22 LB brains. They have massive, massive
amounts of CSF. In it and.
They kind of evolved 26,000,000 years before we did from the

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primate tree. And you know that the
encephalization quotient of humans is radically different
than the mates that were linked to.
And when you begin to see the story, you go, OK, Jack's a
neurosurgeon. He trained with Doctor Klein
down in Louisiana. He's clearly very interested in
this story about the brain and how it works.

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So basically, I see all of our modern patients as rhinos with
heavy armor but don't get enoughsun to run their mitochondrial
matrices and this Ferrari enginein their head.
So what happens? They become simplified.
You know, Savannah animals like the rhinoceros?

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And now on to today's show. Good morning.
Welcome to the next episode of the Informed Health Initiative.
I'm your host, Doctor Hewitt McCullough.
And I'm the Co host, Doctor SeanTroxler.

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And we have a very special guesttoday, Doctor Jack Cruz, who's
remotely with us from El Salvador.
We've both been big fans of Doctor Cruz for a while and
really engrossed in his work. I.
Doctor Cruz is, and he sometimesbuild on some podcasts as a
banned neurosurgeon. I don't like to call it that.

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He is a neurosurgeon. He's also got a bigger history.
I know he is a dentist at one time and then an oral surgeon.
And we have some connection because he spent a lot of time
here in the state of Louisiana. Doctor Cruz, if you don't mind,
I'd like to let you just kind ofgive us more of your background
and then proceed as you see fit.Yeah.

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I don't know. I don't know why people.
Call me a bad neurosurgeon either, you know.
My I keep seeing that on the podcast.
Yeah, on. My whole career, 40 years of
neurosurgery, the things that I like to tell people, and oral
surgery too, I've never been sued once, never had any license
taken away, never had my hospital privileges, you know,

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curbed or limited for any reasonat all.
So I think maybe it's done to sell, you know, podcast and you
guys are in the podcast business.
You know, I'm not, I just I'm the guy that people want to talk
to. So I guess you generate clicks
and money and revenue. Who knows?

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Maybe this is part of the Rockefeller paradigm in
podcasting. I don't know.
But I guess this would probably be the first podcast I ever do
with two doctors trained in Louisiana like I did so.
From that. Perspective.
Now you guys are in Shreveport, I'm in.
New Yes, Sir. Same health, same Health Center,

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but different places. They have different experiences,
but I think you guys have a veryinteresting experience.
Hopefully we get into it in the podcast.
I'd like to know how much you guys really knew about Andrew
Marino since he was up your way in.
Shreveport. And had to basically find, you

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know, sanctuary in Shreveport for most of his career to run
away from the industrial military complex.
You know the Doctor Fauci of histime, which was Philip Handler,
who was. I remember Doctor Marino's name,
I just didn't really know him. Yeah.
Well, he's, I'm just telling you, if you can get him on your

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podcast, my opinion is you really should.
And probably through our discussion today, you'll
understand why he was the biophysicist that worked with
Robert O Becker and. Did.
Oh, wow. Oh man, I did not know that.
Yeah. I did most of his, his vetting
of his experiments. And if you read his book, and I

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would strongly recommend for you2, since you're both physicians
and you trained up there, read his book Going Somewhere because
it is a treatise in electromagnetic interference
that's pairing with all of our patients now.
So all of our patients are effectively now like rhinoceros.

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This is not elephant. And I'll explain that to you
down the road because that's a neurosurgery thing.
Like have you ever visited my house on Bourbon Street or my
house in Louisiana or now my house here?
And I'll start with where you'llcome in and one of the things
that you notice because I have rhinoceroses everywhere.
Really. Yes.

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And people always ask me, you know, why is that the case?
How is it tied to the story thatwe're unfolding now?
Rhinos are heavily armored. They grew up on the Savannah,
just like elephants did. But elephants and rhinos are
radically different. Rhinos have small brains, but
they're really well grounded. That's the reason why they're

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always dirty. And elephants, which you guys
know, are big, huge mammals. They have 22 LB brains.
They have massive, massive amounts of CSF.
In it and. They kind of evolved 26,000,000
years before we did from the primate tree.
And you know that the encephalization quotient of

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humans is radically different than the primates that were
linked to. And when you begin to see the
story, you go, OK, Jack's a neurosurgeon.
He trained with Doctor Klein down in Louisiana.
He's clearly very interested in this story about the brain and
how it works. So basically, I see all of our

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modern patients as rhinos with heavy armor but don't get enough
sun to run their mitochondrial matrices and this Ferrari engine
in their head. So what happens?
They become simplified. You know, Savannah animals like
the rhinoceros. So my patients are hanging on

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the wall all around me. They're on the bookcase, and I'm
trying to turn them into elephants.
I'm trying to get them so they begin to understand the reason
why elephants have so much CSF like we do and rhinos don't.
Like I tell people, the last extinction event that we all

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went through, I'm sure you've heard me talk about this,
another podcast. I'm just going to throw out some
things that may stimulate some of your questions to get us to
the crux of what you want to talk about.
I want you to think about the two animals that got through the
KT event, Euphere and mammals and theropod dinosaurs.
We know that theropod dinosaurs became birds.

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We can tell from the hip joint. Well, let's talk about a modern
burn that I know you have in Louisiana, because I had him in
my backyard when I lived there and I have him here.
Woodpecker. You know that a woodpecker
doesn't have any CSF in its brain.
So I want you to think about this.
You guys know what a woodpecker does, right?
He bangs his head up against a damn tree to make a hole.

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So you start to see that and then I just told you the story
about elephants 26,000,000 yearsbefore we show up, they
magically get this huge 5000 gram brain with 2 1/2 liters of
CSF in it. And remember they're on a
Savannah and you guys know that I talk about Michael Crawford's
work and DHA and this and that. And then I told you the link

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between armor on rhinos and elephants.
Have no rhino I should say. Have no armor.
What does that functionally mean?
What am I trying to tell you? I'm trying to tell you that the
thickness of your exterior has alot to do with how much sun you
can absorb, meaning vitamin D. What did you guys learn in
school? Just like I did, but probably

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never were taught why it's important.
Right before cytochrome seoxidase sits the VDR receptor.
The VDR receptor is designed to be a fuse.
OK, so when you're in the sun, your vitamin D level is good.
It stops electron chain transport.
How important is this? What's the other thing?
That's a fuse box for this system.

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UVA Light, which I know you're making in Louisiana right now,
even in Shreveport, also makes nitric oxide.
Nitric oxide inhibits cytochromeC.
So you have nature now telling you that vitamin D and nitric
oxide made from outside in blockelectronic chain transport.
But here's the irony that you never asked.
You're probably biochem professor in in LSU.

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You guys keep teaching us some biochemistry.
The ATP is the the key thermodynamic battery in
mammals. There's two reasons why you
can't use ATP to explain how anybody who's an Equatorial son.
Like a rhino or an. Elephant can do what they do and
then you begin to see the difference in what the rhino and

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elephant does. The the rhino kept his brain
simple because since he does he has so much armor he doesn't
have the protection to make a lot of nitric oxide or vitamin
D. So do you know why they don't
get big brain is because they have no protection for the
mitochondrial matrix so they can't explain expand their brain

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otherwise they try to circuit. This is similar.
To. You know what you guys would
find? Like if we went around
Shreveport right now and we found a 1920s house, but we're
going to plug it into the Entergy nuclear power plant
that's close to you. You know what's going to happen
to that house? It's going to burn up.
Yeah. Well, that's the reason why
rhinos kept their brains small. Let's talk about the elephant

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now, because remember both of these animals Equatorial on the
Savannah, Same environment, but they made a different choice.
The. Elephant has thin skin.
The elephant allows more sun to get in.
The elephant has that same VDR receptor because remember both
of these suckers are mammals andit makes more nitric oxide.

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So what happened? It gets this massive brain, 5000
grams. Why?
Because it can't fry its circuits.
And. What does the water do?
The water is actually what they should have taught you in
biochemistry. It turns out that is the main
way that mammals generate energy, not from ATP.

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And the reason that this hasn't been well understood goes back
to what happened at the turn of the century when Standard Oil
gets blown up by Teddy Rooseveltand John D Rockville stands in
Congress and says, I'm going to make sure I bankrupt America.
And what does he do after they break up Standard Oil?

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He builds basically big farm in New Jersey, and he uses all the
different waste chemicals to come up with ways to ruin
biology in certain ways so that people will be become addicted
to using the drugs that he makesfor these solutions.
What? What effectively did the flex in

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a report do? It gave Rockefeller and the
Rockefeller Foundation control. Over the curriculums that you 2
learned and I learned. Remember, we're in the same same
university system, separated by maybe 3-4 hundred miles.
So I know what you learned, and you know what I learned.
But the story? That I just told you about

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rhinos and elephants, which you don't need a randomized
controlled clinical trial because you go to any freaking
zoo and see that these animals are alive.
They come from the same area. Then you stop.
At least I stop when I got to LSU and talked to Nicholas
Bazan, talked to David Klein. And when I posed these questions

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as resonance as a resident, I should say, I said, you know,
humans also evolved around the East African rift.
So that means we have to have something in common with rhinos,
elephants and us, our brain. And I began to ask those
questions and from me being a young whippersnapper, Dr. Klein,

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who I'm sure you guys know he's now dead, but probably world
famous neurosurgeon from LSU to me, Jack, he goes.
I think you need to learn about this guy named Robert O Becker.
He's an orthopedic surgeon who is at SUNY Syracuse.
He's doing some really interesting things on mammals.
And the first thing he told me is he took kids that had

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fingertips cut off and he used silver ions and redid their
whole fingertip, like complete regeneration.
And I'm going, I look at him, I'm like boss, because that's
what he used to call Klein. I said, you're telling me they
did the muscle, the nerve, the bone, like the whole thing and
the nail. He goes everything 1960.

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OK. So so Klein Klein gives me this
job as AI think I was a first year nurse surgery resident.
You need to, you know, look at Becker's work.
He goes, not only did he do do this really interesting thing
about fingertips, he goes, but he also proved that bone doesn't
heal. It regenerates completely
because it's like the liver. And I had never heard that

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before, you know, in my dental training, my medical training,
or in any of my biochemistry classes or any of my Physiology
classes, which kind of surprisedme.
And then when I read all his work and found out that most of
the work was done in the 50s andthe 60s and then he was
immediately cancelled by you know, the industrial military

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complex and DARPA, specifically the Secretary of the Navy.
And then I found out the story with Handler and handlers link
to the Rockefeller empire. I pretty quick got very
interested in the story and so much so that when I read his
work and I gave the talk to the residents, 5 other residents

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didn't believe what I told them.And Klein just sat back in his
chair and started giggling because he knew that I was
stirring up a pot that you know,he was probably too old to get
into. But The funny thing was, later
in my residency, when I became areal nightmare, I told him that

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Becker's work had huge implications.
For the way we were doing peripheral nerve surgery too.
And you know he didn't like that.
Part because that was, you know,his baby.
But nonetheless, when this all comes down, I go through my
training and this and that and then it it falls back on me when

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I have one of my own issues, I go back to the primary care
doctor and say, look, I'm havingtrouble.
I just told my knee meniscus given a talk on spine surgery in
Birmingham, AL. And one of the.
Ladies that was there is marriedto an orthopaedic surgeon worked
for Amgen, you know a Rockefeller, you know, inspired

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big pharma company and she told me I know why this happened.
I'm going to send you a book in six papers, which she did.
She told me specifically to readthe book 1st and then the paper
right. When I read the book in the
papers. What did I think she was trying
to tell me? I think she was trying to tell
me I need to put Big pharma out of business.
It's actually not how I took themessage.

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The message I think in the book called the Monk Who Sold His
Ferrari was a bigger deal for mebecause of what happened to me
at Charity Hospital. So.
The some. So when I'm a young resident,
Klein, who is my mentor at LSU, world famous neurosurgeon, says

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to me, because I want you to do a report to the residents about
this guy, Robert O Becker. He's an orthopedic surgeon at
City Downstate who in the 50s and 60s did this pretty amazing
stuff, you know, that he had read that bone doesn't heal.
It regenerates fully, kind of like our liver does.

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And when Klein told me that, I looked at him like, you know,
especially since he's an older guy.
I'm going, there's no way this is true.
You know, I never heard this. You know, in high school, I
didn't hear it. In college biology, I didn't
hear it anywhere, you know, and not in that.
I didn't even hear it from when I was in dental school, when I
was an oral surgery resident. And, you know, and when I was an

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oral surgeon at LSU as well, most of what I did was move
people's bones around in their face.
So you would think. You would think just.
From from that alone. That I would have heard about
this, but I didn't hear it in any of my training.
So anyway. I, I take Klein up on his

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advice. I do it.
I present to the residents and the none of the residents
believed what I told them. I actually had to hand them
Becker's papers and they all looked at me the same way.
I'm like, why'd this guy get, you know, Canucks?
Then that's when I told him, well, he got really close to a
story with the US Navy when the Navy found out that we use ADC

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electric current. And let's be clear.
What he found for your audience,because you guys may not know
this because you told me that you haven't read the book yet
and don't know about his research.
What did he find? He found that when we break a
bone, doesn't matter if you're afrog, an amphibian, or a mammal
like us, that when you break thebone, the bonus piezoelectric,

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it uses 2 semiconductors. Semiconductors, P&N.
The ones that you've learned about is collagen and appetite,
and they bind in bone to make a bone.
What controls bone regeneration is ADC electric current that you
generate. Somehow he never knew from his

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work how the generation happened, but it was a pico amp
mirror current. What does that mean for people
at home that don't know anythingabout this?
That's one trillionth of 1 amp mirror.
So we're talking a really, really small current actually
was able to take a red blood cell, an adult red blood cell D
differentiated back to a stem cell.

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The stem cell then would become an osteoblast and the osteoblast
would heal the bone completely with no scar, and that broke
every. Rule.
In the book that you guys learned, and I learned why?
Because we were always told thatcells can only go one way.
They can't go backwards. OK, that's like the the biologic

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dogma that's taught in Rockefeller medicine since the
reflection report, you know, since we discovered DNA in 53
with Watson and Crick. But if you remember right at
this time, because I'm going to,I'm a resident when the human
genome projects going on that goes on from 83 to to 2001.

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And when this comes out, the residents, of course, I'll ask
me. Well, what happened to this guy?
Well, the, the US Department of Navy, specifically the, the head
of the Navy at that time in 1973told Becker that they were
getting ready to build this sanguine tower in Wisconsin.

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Why? They wanted to control all the
nuclear Trident Subs all over the world.
So they needed to use RF radiation to do it.
And if you know anything about RF, it can work because it
bounces off the ionosphere. And even when you're on the
other side of the world, you canget information on the
coordinates of where the sub is.So they hire Becker.

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And a guy that you guys need to interview, Andrew Marino,
because he's at LSU, Shreveport.He's retired now, but he's
professor emeritus. He was the biophysicist and
lawyer that worked for Becker. They did a study for the US Navy
in 73 that showed that this RF antenna, with the power density
that it had, would affect the Earth's magnetosphere 80,000

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kilometers above the planet. So the answer.
Wow. They gave the Navy was
absolutely it's going to affect living things around it.
Why? Because you guys know his
doctors. The way radiation works, the
point source you're closest to is where the biggest risk is.
So that's the reason why we don't have medical students
sticking their head in the floramachine or, you know, you

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sticking your head in a microwave, things like that.
So Becker was told that all his work would be published in the
Federal Register. And, you know, when things get
published in the Federal Register to become kind of like
laws in the United States right now.
Yeah. Well, it's, there's actually,

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believe it or not, there's things that changed in the Nixon
administration because remember,this isn't a Nixon time.
Nixon basically said any executive order that gets put
and published in the Federal Register effectively becomes
law. That's something that wasn't
true at our country's genesis, right?
So when the Navy promised Beckerthey would do this and they

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never did it, Becker got so frustrated.
Over 4 years, he gets on 60 minutes with the guy that was on
there. I'm blanking on his name now,
but I can see his face. Mike Wallace.
Yeah, Mike Wallace. And he, he tells the story for
the whole world to hear. Now, why didn't this land the
punch like it would land today? Because back in 1977, nobody

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except rich people on 5th Ave. in New York owned the microwave
ovens. So nobody really understood what
the science really said. So what gets what gets published
from 73 through 77? This is all the work that Becker
and Marino did. This is all covered in Marino's
book, which is called Going Somewhere, which you guys need

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to read. But when he goes on national TV
and basically tells people that not only is this antenna bad,
but remember where I told you heis?
He's in Syracuse. He said you carry.
He was the governor of New York.He's getting ready to put power
lines that go from New York Cityall the way up to Niagara Falls,
where Tesla's, you know, first AC power grid was close to the

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falls. That also has an effect.
And me and Andrew Marino tested that too.
So you don't want to live anywhere within 1000 yards of
those those towers. And you know, those towers right
now, especially where you guys are in Louisiana, they go all
the way from South Louisiana allthe way up to north Louisiana.
They're everywhere in your neck of the woods.

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They go right through Alexandriaall the way up to Shreveport,
so. When this comes out, you then
had people taking fluorescent light bulbs going under these
power lines and the light bulbs would turn on Like that was when
people first started to realize,holy shit, this guy is not full

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of shit. In other words, because nobody
had cell phones, nobody had screens like we have today.
People started to use what they had to prove that Becker was not
lying. So what immediately happens?
Becker gets his lab defunded, he's twice already nominated for
the Nobel Prize for the work that I told you in bone and he's
lost the history. So I would say to you 2 guys,

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cuz I don't know how you old youare, Did you ever learn about an
orthopedic surgeon that proved that bone regenerates who got
nominated for 2 Nobel prizes anytime in your training?
No, OK, I'm. Going to tell you why cuz this
is the real important part of the story for what's going on
today in medical schools. So David Rockefeller, who's now

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in power when Becker's doing allthis work, he is very good
friends with Phillip Handler. Phillip Handler at at this time
is like the Anthony Fauci. Of his day, OK.
And he basically controlled whatgot published and what did it.
Handler was a known biochemist. He was a non believer in

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everything Becker was doing. But the reason he was a non.
Believer is because he was. Funded by David Rockefeller.
Now you need to know what also is going on at this time and
I've covered this another podcast, I don't know if you
guys have listened to it, but probably the best one is the
Danny Jones podcast and then theRobert Breedlove podcast where I

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talk about MK Ultra. MK Ultra also plays out in our
state in Louisiana. Why?
As you guys heard, one of the the big universities that was
tied to CIA and MK Ultra fundingwas Tulane University.
And you know, in New Orleans, since 1 of you said you were
down in the South part of the state, you know that Tulane and

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Charity Hospital. Are.
Right next to each other. The old LSU.
Medical in New Orleans enough. Times.
Right. And the old LSU medical schools
literally on the other side of charity.
So literally, we're talking in one city block.
These two medical schools are there, and Tulane's got a
primate center and LSU has a primate center.

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I worked in the LSU Primate Center when I was a resident
with Doctor Michael Carey, who is now retired, but I think he's
still alive. And he worked for the Department
of the Army when I was actually in charity.
And you guys may remember this since you're Louisianans, but in
the Times Picayune, we had a break in from the PITA people

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trying to free the monkeys when I was a resident.
And this meets a really big dealdown there where that's probably
the first place that I got caught on the radar when this
happened. And Long story short, through
this whole process, I go down into the bowels of Charity

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Hospital. And if any of you've ever
visited there, you'll understandthis.
All the records that go back allthe way to like the 1780s are
down in the archives. I find out the stuff that I'm
really interested in. On the MK Ultra side is put in a
tunnel that you have to go down in the charity into the basement
of two Lane and basically that that tunnel goes all the way to

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the Tropical School of Medicine,which is across the street on
Canal Street, you guys. Know we're talking about
Carrollton and Canal we're talking about.
A2 block span. So but this, it's a lot of
space. It's a lot of space, a lot of
space. This is all places where all the
archives were stored for both LSU, Tulane and Cherry.

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So when I'm doing this report for Klein, I start to talk to
Klein. About, you know, I.
I think I think there's a link here between what Becker found
and what was going on in Tulane neurosurgery.
Because if you trained at LSU atthat time, you knew there was a
lot of monkey business about those primate lives.

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And everybody who trained down there knew about it.
And people knew that it was tiedto the story of Alton Ochsner.
Why? Because as you guys know, as
Louisiana guys, Alton Ochsner used to be the head of surgery
at Tulane. He took over for Rudolph Matass.
And toss is. Very, very famous down there.
But then what happens when Ochsner takes over?

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He gets into a big fight with another guy that you know from
Louisiana, UEP Long and his family used to be the the
governor down there. And it turns out that Osner
wanted to do things 'cause he was working at that time with J
Edgar Hoover and the FBI. He then gets in bed with the CIA
and eventually. This.

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Leads to two lane firing Osner. Osner goes to Jefferson Highway
and opens up Osher Medical Foundation.
But you guys know, it's kind of like the Mayo Clinic of the
South now in New Orleans, it's become a big monster itself, but
magically. Through this whole process,
Alton Usher gets a grant from one of our House of

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Representative guys who you guyscan see today in New Orleans,
the Hale Boggs building. Hale Boggs used to be the head
of appropriations in Congress atthis time.
When you're talking about. Language because I read it
Haslam's book, but go ahead. So this is good.
So you know that there's a Hill Burton grant given through Hale
Boggs who may who grease the skids.

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Some of the people that were also politicians in UEP.
Long's family, this is now his sons who also became a state
senator at the same time. Boxes down there, they grease
the skids to clear up about 10 or $20 million to give Ochsner A
linac. And the linac gets put in the
basement of the US Public HealthHospital on Henry Clay Blvd.,

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which is right across the streetfrom Children's Hospital.
The reason I can have these discussion with you guys because
you guys are Louisiana doctors. So you know what I'm telling you
here is not bullshit. It's all laid out.
So as a neurosurgeon, I had to do my pediatric rotation
partially at Usher and partiallyat Children's Hospital on Henry.
Clay Blvd. And across the street I see this

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US Public Health hospital and atthat time, you know, back in the
late 80s and early 90s, it's notrenovated, OK?
If you go there today, you will not see.
What was there then? But there's this huge building,
3 stories that look like a church.
It went straight up. And when I was on my breaks, I
used to always go over there andask the the janitors, I said.

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What was this building used for?Because the public health
hospital is in the front of the property.
The building I was really interested in is right on the
road that goes tease Henry Clay Blvd.
And he goes, oh, that used to bea place.
Where a doctor from? Oscar used to do experiments on
monkeys. I said, really?
I said, can I get in there? And, you know, at the time, the

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building was all boarded up. I believe this was in 1991.
And he let me in. And then when I went in, what
did I see? The first thing that shocked me,
the building went down three stories into the ground and went
up three stories. So it's six stories tall.
I get to the basement. First thing I see is this huge
concrete Crucible and then a channel going straight up in the

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air. It almost looked like a a silo.
And then you see, I guess I would call them concrete
pillars. Six in a row, you know, in a
semicircle. But there's an empty shaft where
I guess the linac used to be. How did I figure?
Out the linac was there. This was the tell.

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There was a huge grounding pad there.
When I tell you this grounding pad was probably let me try to
give you a, an analogy so you guys understand something that
you would know. I have to think about it because
I'll use Louisiana as an example.
I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll give you a good one.

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When you're driving from Alexandria to Shreveport, you
know the big advertisements you see on the side of the road.
You know where? They they sell cars and shit.
It was the size of that, except it was almost probably 1415
inches thick. The wire that came off it was
like this big copper and twine, but it was cut.

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And I asked, the guy said what the hell?
Is that for? And he had no idea, but I knew
right away that this was a grounding plug because I saw it
went straight into the earth right next to it.
So. Of course, I'm leaving there and
I'm thinking about the story I told you guys earlier about
Klein and Becker. And I already know the story

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about what happened at Tulane with MK Ultra and the polio jobs
and what happened with Oscar, you know, bringing everybody
into the Amphitheatre that we have there.
Most people who trained in Louisiana know about the
Amphitheatre that Charity Hospital had had and that Oscar
had, and when he paraded his twograndkids in there and gave him

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the cutter jab. You can still find this today in
the newspaper in the archives ofNew York Times.
One of his kids grandkids dies from polio 5 days later.
The other one gets the polio in her leg.
So that's how we know that the Cutter incident actually
happened. So, you know, the Cutter
incident is wiped away from medical history just like Becker

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was. That's why.
Medical students, even in Louisiana, don't learn what I'm
telling you right now. How did I learn this?
Because I trained at Charity Hospital.
Who was my ER nurse at Charity Hospital?
Virginia Garrison, who happens to be Jim Garrison's daughter.
OK. And she's the one that clues me

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in in 199091 because she knew asa nurse earlier as I was getting
ready to head to Ochsner, she goes, be careful when you go
over there. And she starts telling me a lot
of the story that you guys heardin in the Haslam book.
But there's parts of this story that aren't in the Haslam book

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that I'm telling you because I physically was in the place
where this linac was. And here's the crazier point.
Guess what specialty in medicineuses a linac?
Neurosurgeons. So the linac in my residency
when I get to Usher is sitting in the freaking basement of
Ochsner laying down this time, and it's clearly been modified.

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So what did I do then? I talked to the.
Next living Ochsner family member, which is Jo John
Ochsner, his son. He's a cardiovascular surgeon.
Why did I pick him? Because back in those days we
didn't have coil for aneurysm. So we used to cut people's chest
open, stop their heart to clip bachelor tip aneurysm.

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I know you talk about dinosaur, but guess what?
That's what we did in the late 80s and early 90s before we had
the newer technology and during these cases, which you can
imagine lasted, you know, whole day.
Yeah. I decided to do something kind
of crazy. I talked to my mentor
neurosurgeon, who is Ranvores. I said, I'm going to ask him

(36:04):
this question. He looks at me, goes, are you
freaking nuts? Because you know, everybody
who's at Osner knows the story about how his father killed one
of his own grandchildren, and hedid it in front of the whole
medical staff. So, like, if you're a resident
in Osher and you don't know the story, you have to be almost
brain dead, OK. Everybody knew about it.
The people who didn't know aboutit, though, were a lot of the

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medical students, let medical students.
The Qatar incident was hidden. And when I talked to Jo about
it, he sent me down, believe it or not, to the medical library
that was in the hospital in Austria.
He goes, everything's down there.
He goes, go talk to this lady here.
She'll give you everything. Because I told him I was doing
a, a research paper for Klein onbone regeneration.

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And part of this story, you know, was important about red
blood cells. And he goes, yeah.
And he just never caught on to what I was doing.
So you guys need to remember what else is going on.
In 199091, in the basement of Charity Hospital, They're
filming JFK. Oliver Stone is there and who's
there? Chantelle is my nurse and I'm

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the resident. In fact, the funniest part of
story, Chantelle, when she was working down there, she was
going out to lunch. Oliver Stone spilled Wendy
Smoothie all over her because hewasn't looking when he went past
her. Because you know, everybody was
walking in and out of the basement of Charity because
where did they film this? They filmed it in the morgue of

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charity because it was, you know, I guess a good place to do
it. And when this is all going on, I
begin to realize the story of Tulane neurosurgery and
neurology involved in MK Ultra, where we go from putting wires
in in bulls heads to monkeys heads, then to wireless
technology. You know what happened with SV40

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at the same place. And then all of a sudden,
magically, the story about Becker and Becker getting
cancelled and when I finished myresidency, something actually
physically happens to me at a spotting meeting that I was out.
I was. Showing some new minimally

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invasive spine techniques that Ihad come up with when I was out
to a group of orthopedic and neurosurgeons.
And what I got up, when I stood up, I tore my knee.
Minutes. Just didn't know that at the
time. But there was a lot of
orthopedic guys there. And they said, yeah, that's what
happened. I could barely get to the
podium, gave the talk. But this was the most
interesting part of the story. There's a lady who's married to

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this Jackass, orthopedic surgeons, They're no longer
married, but he was a true Jackass.
I never liked the guy. And his wife came out to me and
she goes, look, I know why this happened.
I'm going to give you a book. And six papers and.
I'm going to send it to you, andI think you'll be able to figure
it out. So the book she sends me, if you

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can believe this is a fable, it's not even a true story.
It's called The Monk Who Sold This Ferrari, written by a guy
named Robin Sharma. And then the six papers are all
about this unusual chemical thatI never learned about a medical
school, and I'll explain to you why.
It's called leptin. Leptin is discovered in 1994.

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In Rockefeller University of NewYork by Jeffrey Friedman.
Now, I had already finished medical school by that time, so
it makes sense why I would neverlearn about it.
But then I started to notice those links in the paper she
sent me. They were all tied to melanin.
They were tied to equine and exocrine glands in the gut and

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our sweat glands on the surface.And then the most magical thing
happens is she sends me a paper that shows that the Rockefeller
Foundation paid an ungodly amount of money for the research
to make sure that Amgen would dothis.
Amgen comes up with a synthetic leptin so that, you know, they,

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you know, understand why they have to do this.
They have to make it synthetic so they can patent it, so they
can sell the drugs. And what do they do?
Literally after paying this record amount which everybody
can go fine now on a 10K report.They cancel the leptin trials
and I thought this was really interesting.

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What happens from that point? Where do I pick up the stunt?
Then they cancel the leptin trials.
And then they immediately start to patent cold receptors.
They immediately start to patentGlucagon receptors.
And I'm looking at this and I'm going this, this really doesn't
make any sense. So of course, you know me as a

(40:44):
resident, in between all the shit I'm doing, I start trying
to put all the shit together andI began to realize what the goal
was. The goal was is they were trying
to figure out how this all fit together.
So when I went back, this is nowafter the knee issue at that

(41:04):
spine meeting, I go back to Vanderbilt University and take
all the thermodynamic Givens that I just shared with you and
started doing my homework in themedical school library at
Vanderbilt. And I find out that there's this
ancient pathway that's in all mammals called the leptin
milanocortin. Pathway.
It's really important in our skin, our fat, it's important in

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our eye, it's important in our brain.
It's linked to these. Other options called neuropsin
and melanopsin, which I had never learned about in medical
school. And I'm sitting here looking
through the whole thing and I realize, OK, the cold receptors,
the TRP and receptors is tied tohow we cool ourselves.

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And then I realized something early on from evolution that we
all have a mammalian dive reflex.
When our babies are born, they're designed to be born in
water. Why?
We have so much fat. We float up to the surface.
We don't take a breath. You know, everybody knows about
the Nirvana album cover. That's kind of where it all
links in and. Leptin is below our skin in our

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subcu fat, which I thought was really bizarre in the beginning.
And then I look at the Glucagon receptor and I'm like, there's
something bizarre about all this.
And what was the bizarre part? Remember, I told you before, we
may have been on the other otherchannel before we got disrupted,

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but I started to find out that all of these genes for humans
are on chromosome #2 and I said that's really interesting.
I said Ponce, which is where melanin comes from, which is
alpha MSH. I said then the EDAR gene, which
controls the E crying sweat glands on our surface, that's
also on a chromosome too. And then the Glucagon gene,

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which controls exocrine functionin the body.
Specifically, what you guys learned about was pancreatic
function. And then this magical part, this
is the magical part for the Becker part of the story, how I
really figured it all out. There's a regulatory unit on
chromosome #2 called BCL 11A. And you know what it does?

(43:18):
It is the switch, because I knowyou guys learned this like I
did. It's this switch that turns us
from adults hemoglobin to fetal hemoglobin.
And it's kind of looks like it'ssitting there with no reason,
but it's on chromosome too. And.
I go, you know, that's eerily similar to what Becker found in
his research on bone because he said that we have to de

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differentiate bone from an adultform to fetal form and we have
to get the nucleus back in the red blood cell to regenerate.
I said this has to be LinkedIn some way.
So of course I'm digging further, digging further.
And as I told you, this whole thing is going on from 1983 to
to 2001. That's when the human genome
products on, and then what can Imagically find?

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I find this guy named Jeffrey Epstein gets hired by David
Rockefeller in 1983. He's made member of the
Trilateral Commission. He's also made made a member of
the CFRCFR is the Council of Foreign Relations.
Why should this resonate with you guys?
You may remember part of that Danny Jones podcast when I was

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on Cali and Cassie means their dad worked for David
Rockefeller. They also were part of the CFR.
They're now part of Maha. And I knew that they were bad
news, really bad news because ofwhat I'm about to tell you.
So when I find out that Epstein specifically was hired by David

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Rockefeller with no background, he's powered up by Rockefeller
money to go find the four top human genome project guys that
are working on chromosome 2. That's what he's interested in.
So when they go there, they findthe first guy is making George.

(45:05):
I'm blanking on his name. I I don't want to say George
Allen because I think that's a football coach, but people can
Fact Check this and go look at he's the head of the G human
genome project. Turns out he was not very
important. But in the latest dump you got
from Epstein, you'll find out there's like 1300 emails between
Epstein and him really early on through this whole, you know, 10
year process. Then the next guy who's a big

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guy that you need to pay attention to, his name's Eric
Lander, of course, tied to the DARPA web and ARPANET, which is
at Harvard. His name's Eric Lander, and what
do I find out about him? 80% of the work that was done in
the Human Genome Project about chromosome 2 is is tied to him.

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So now I begin to understand whyEpstein is so interested in this
guy because it ties back to whatRockefeller paid him to do.
Then the next guy, Boris Nicholo, he is the front man for
guess who, Bill Gates. And here's where it gets really
interesting. I go through a whole bunch of

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SEC reports, 10K reports and what do I magically find out
that Bill Gates through his Melinda and Bill Gates
Foundation in this time? Putting all this together, I'm

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hearing stories that Gates wantsto get out of the the the
software business and get into the vaccine business.
And the last? I've heard it's called Ambrosia,

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and I'll tell you where it comesfrom because it's also
discoverable. Ambrosia is when you take blood
from young mammals, give it to older mammals and they get a
huge benefit. OK, And the rich technocrats are
now setting up a company called Ambrosia where they pay $8000

(47:16):
for pints of blood from young people to old.
Where did this come from? From the literature that you
guys may have come across in theparabiosis studies with mice.
What did they do? They rerouted their circulatory
systems from a a young mouse to an old mouse and found out that
the old mouse got younger and that's where it originally
began. But who do you need to know

(47:38):
where all this stuff came from? This comes from the Methuselah
Foundation. This is all the tech Bros that
are tied to the PayPal mafia. Even some of the guys that are
tied. To the beginnings of Bitcoin.
But. Clearly all the guys involved in
Palantir, so they begin to know that blood's a really big part
of the story, and I know that blood's a big part of the story

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for a regenerating bone. So what does Epstein get from
all of this collaboration with these four scientists from the
Human Genome Project? He finds out that melanin can be
made very simply in a lab from adrenochrome.
And he finds out that adrenochrome also is made from

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Pom C Pom C, as you guys know, has 11 different chemicals or
peptides associated, but one of them has to be ACTH.
That's tied to both cortisol andthe ability to make
adrenochrome. Adrenochrome is made from
phenolic compound. They have.

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They're very, very rudely covered when I think in the.
Is they were trying to create adrenochrome to regenerate
people and that is why Becker gets cancelled and how all this
stuff is tied together because what does it turn out?
You guys may not know this, but there's a famous guy that you

(49:29):
probably should have on your podcast after you release this
and make sure he watches it. His name is Eric Weinstein.
He's got a brother. He's a biologist, but he is a
he's a what I would call a pseudo.
Physicist and I don't want to I don't want to use that in a
negative connotation. I think he's a really bright
guy, but his work work is all inphysics has all been

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sidetracked. And one of the questions that he
just brought up in the last three months on podcast that
he's done, he goes, you know, I want to know why Jeffrey Epstein
was at my facility, which was MIT, and why he was funding
certain people and not others. And what Eric was pounding the
table on without saying because,you know, I don't think he wants
to get cancelled. Is that Epstein was interested

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in something very, very specific, and any type of
science that would lead to this being outed would be a promise.
So it turns out one of the things I told you guys a long
time ago is that all three of uswere taught at OSU that cells
are a bag of chemicals and everything's about biochemistry.
That's what Handler used against.
Becker. And what did Becker say back to

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him? No biophysics is upstream of
biochemistry. Guess what?
Epstein officially found that truth and that was transmitted.
Straight to Rockfall now how do you?
Know. That this information got to
Rockefeller, They cancel the leptin Trauser Amgen.
And what did they magically comeup with in 2005?

(50:54):
GLP one. Drugs.
Well. What's the 1?
That you guys remember suck it was really system and block it.

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What is the collateral effect ofthis whole thing that the
Rockefeller Foundation found outthat when you do this, you
basically make people wilt to nothing.
So that's the reason why they sold it as a weight loss drug
for type 2 and type 1 diabetes. But what effectively happened
when they kept using computer analysis with the biota drug?

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Now we get further down the Pikeand they get better peptides
that do more different things. What's the key thing that we
just find out literally in the last two months from the
Stanford lab called the Blau lab.
For anybody who doesn't know howthat's spelled, it's BLAU.
They have a pre print out right now that they used in mice.

(52:03):
Very similar setup to the. The parabiosis studies that I
told you guys about. But what did it show?
It showed that these drugs destroy muscles, and it showed
it in mice. So what do you have to know
about mice? This is where it comes to the
melanin story. So mice are small nocturnal
mammals that live under the ground.
Now they don't do that in our labs, you guys.

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Know that, but that's kind of how they're built.
So if you have an effect in these mice, you know the effect
in humans is going to be magnified.
And did I put a post out with the reasons why that's all true?
Because remember, we're diurnal.We have totally different
melanin strategy to do somethingdifferent.

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But what is the key thing in theblouse study to put a bow on
this so you guys will understandit.
It showed that the mice lose their ability to regenerate.
That means it's exactly unwinding what Becker found in
us. So guess what?
The effect is magnified in us. Now.

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Right now, the blog guys don't know why this is happening.
I can tell you the reason why it's happening because when you
block the exhaust of the mitochondrial matrix, what's the
backup? The backup where all this
nastiness goes is the inner mitochondrial matrix.
And for those of you who don't know, Nick Lane's written a
book. Proven that the inner

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mitochondrial membrane has a 30 million Volt charge on it as
hard as that is to believe that charge is called delta PSI.
When you read papers, delta PSI drops anytime you blocked E
crying and exocrine stuff. So why is this muscle atrophy a
big deal? Because basically it in it

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causes heteroplasmy which is early aging.
And what we're seeing in the muscles is exactly what you guys
see in your clinic. When people get older, they lose
muscle mass and get more fat. OK.
The same thing is true in peoplethat use GLP one drugs.
The real bad news is because of the way this happens with the
Glucagon gene on chromosome 2, these people.

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Are going to have silent cardiacevents.
That doctors won't realize goingon.
Why? Because what does it do?
It causes cardiac fibrosis and it ruins the electrophysiologic
system of the heart. And it does it in such a way.
It's silent until it becomes deadly.
In other words, you'll get someone with heart failure that

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previously had none and you won't understand it.
Why is the drug work for the Rockefeller empire and all the
peptide? God, it's like Nova Nordisk and
all that is because people are more interested in vanity.
You're not interested in the truth.
So if you take a fat fuck and put them on these drugs and they
lose weight, they're all happy and this and that, but they

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don't realize that they're losing probably a decade or two
on their life on the back end because they're rising, raising
their header plasma. Now.
Are there other papers out therethat are?
Beginning to hit this is where it ties to the other part of the
story that I mentioned to you. This guy Thorpe that runs
Science magazine has a cadre of PhD scientist that are designed

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to make sure studies like the Blau study never hits the
journal so that you guys in Louisiana read it because they
want you to continue to keep people on these drugs.
And remember, here's the ultimate irony of the business
plan. Blue line non-native BMF
electromagnetic stuff that Becker found makes you fat.

(55:42):
These drugs make you skinny. Except when they make you
skinny, they kill you. So they built the whole business
plan around chromosome #2 OK. And the people that you guys
think are nefarious, they know what the solution is.
The solution is the leptin Milanocortin pathway.
When when Epstein got taken out first in O8 with the first

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pedophilia thing and then finally in 19, everybody was
sold the story that he was this monster doing this and that he
was protecting the monsters in the Rockefeller Foundation, OK?
Those are the guys that made your curriculum and my
curriculum OK. And right now there's hundreds

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of thousands of doctors in the United States and fact worldwide
that believe that these drugs are good.
And I'm going to tell you. The same thing that happened
with the COVID job is now tied to the GLP one drugs.
Remember how most people figuredout the COVID story when you
make the spike protein and had LMPS on it?

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The LMPS how to charge that charge.
What did it do? It reduced the 30 million Volt
charge on the mitochondria. This is the reason why I'm sure
all three of us saw this and I can tell you I saw it in your
state because I did some locums before I quit in Alexandria.
I saw kids that were 30 years old dropping dead in the ICU

(57:08):
from sudden cardiac events and their spike protein assays were
through the roof and they took one or two jabs.
Well, when I started to tell people when this happened, you
need to send some of this tissueoff to Kevin Mckiernan and let
him find out. Do you have any SV40 promoter
involved? Because we were also seeing a
ton of turbo cancers. And one of the the big things

(57:30):
that I saw in Louisiana that really stunned me is we were
told as physicians that fatties and diabetics should be dying
from COVID. That's not what I saw.
I saw young fit people dying. And then I finally figured out
why. Because when we started taking
the spike protein and looking atthe charge on it, the charge was

(57:53):
the exact same charge, you know,that would drain the inner
mitochondrial battery. And I realized people who don't
have fat, like fat people, the spike protein goes to your fat
and stays there. Your fat can't kill you, but if
it goes to your mitochondrial membrane body, that's a death

(58:17):
sentence. You know, that's career.
If you guys remember what happened to him, this is a guy
that looks like Adonis. He gets fulminant A-fib and he
has to, he has to be cardioverted last year in the

(58:37):
NFL. This guy's going to be a Hall of
Famer. So when you actually see this
stuff and then people argue withyou because remember the guys
that are in charge of this wholething, they're selling you the
biochemistry. Story goes, it's impossible for
this job to kill you. If you look at the biochemistry
and you want to know the truth, they're kind.
Of right about that, but that's not how it kills you.

(58:58):
It's the biophysics that actually kills you, and they
know that. And I want to remind you, what
is the link between Rockefeller and Bill Gates?
They're both eugenicists. They're both interested in
culling the herd. And John Dee is one of the
leaders in the House of trying to do this a long time ago.

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If you remember the the Georgia stones that were up there, What,
what did those stones say? Those were all of Rockefeller's
friends. They said that the world would
be really good when we got to 500 million people.
Well, there's 8 billion of us now.
They've killed probably, I don'tknow, 1015 million worldwide
over the last five or six years.But I got news to you.

(59:39):
The GLP One program, the COVID program, is all tied to the same
story. The only thing that they're
doing is they're doing it differently.
What is the attack vector that none of you seem to really
understand? It's chromosome #2.
So that brings us to the next part of the story that you may
find fascinating. Why is it, Jack, the chromosome

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#2 is tied to this African Savannah thing you were telling
us earlier about, about rhinos and elephants and this whole
thing. Well, you got to know the
difference between rhinos. In elephants is the same
difference between US and monkeys.
And I'll explain it to you really quick without getting too

(01:00:22):
crazy. Everybody knows that elephants
and rhinos came from the same Savannah in Africa.
What everybody forgets is gorillas, chimps and humans did
the same thing. So what's the story that that I
came to? If you come to my house, like
I'm looking at it right now, have a life-size gold rhino on

(01:00:42):
my wall right here. I have about 18 rhinos in my
house here in El Salvador. Why?
Rhinos are like my patients in the office.
They have really thick, armouredskin.
They're built more like dinosaurs.
They have small brains. OK, elephants who live in the
same environment have a different body.
Plant. They have no armor, they're
massive, they eat a lot of shit,but they have 5000 grand brains

(01:01:04):
and a lot of CSF. And when you think about it, you
go, that means an elephant who lives in the same environment.
It's got a different biophysicalprogram.
And what is the biophysical program tied to?
It's what I told you guys earlier.
When you have really thick skin,you can't get vitamin D through.
Where is vitamin D? It's on the enermonic

(01:01:25):
chondromembrane. It's a fuse.
Remember I told you it's a 30 million Volt charge.
Well, if you make enough vitaminD, you can stop that charge,
right? What's the other thing you make
from UV light? Nitric oxide, T98 Nobel prizes
given for that Nitric oxy oxidase.
Guess what that makes? It makes water.

(01:01:46):
Well, remember the story I told you about Becker?
That he found that you can regenerate fingertips in humans,
but you have to have the right current?
Guess what happens when you takemetabolic water and put it next
to melon? It makes 1 pico ammere of ADC
current. So when I figured all this out,
what do I do 2 years before Becker dies?

(01:02:07):
I go visit him. So you know the book you wrote,
you talked about the DC current.You kept saying.
I kept finding the current rightbelow the myelin level and right
below the Axon. I came to tell him the answer.
It came from melanin, OK, Because melanin also is involved
in charge separation of water. And it turns out when that
happens, it makes hydrogen, oxygen, and four electrons.

(01:02:28):
Guess what? The four electrons are where the
DC current comes from, so that'show we regenerate and he found
that extremely interesting. Then I told him the story that I
told you about BCL 11, A being on chromosome 2.
Then I explained to him what happened in the Savannah.
Most people don't know that gorillas have have 24 pairs of

(01:02:54):
chromosomes. I bet you guys didn't know that,
right? Yeah.
OK, you know that we have how many?
2023? We have one less.
So how did that happen? Well, it turns out the guys in
the Human Genome Project figuredout chromosome #24 in the
gorillas about 7 and 9,000,000 years ago.
Telomeres touched and it became chromosome #2 in US.

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How do I believe this happened? They never figured out, but I
believe it was deuterium in the telomere tips.
What did that effectively do it put?
An optical resonator in the middle of our chromosome and
then magically we are Pomp C, edar Glucagon and the BCL 11
genes there. This totally changed our

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ability. So what happens?
What's the one thing that I knowyou guys know because you've
been to the zoo? If you look at a gorilla or a
chimp and you look at us, what do you notice about the skin?
They don't have as much hair as they do, do we?
So isn't that the same story of the rhino and the elephant?

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Like that's a big. Where do where do we leave off?

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The difference in hair type between the primates and humans.
OK, so you know that there's a difference there.
So we lose the hair that makes our skin where the melanin is in
carotenocytes, the outside connector that allows to
encephalize our big brain. Because chimps and gorillas
don't have frontal lobes, and wedo.

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If you look at their face, you'll see they have no frontal
lobes. So this is the exact same story
that happens in rhinos and elephants, except this is later
in evolutionary history. After this fusion event happens
at chromosome #2 so your skin ishas become a solar panel that
allows you to encephalize. How do we know that this is

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effectively true? Well, you guys probably heard of
the story about Neanderthals. You probably made jokes about it
when you're a doctors. You know, and you said to
people, hey, you're a Neanderthal, and that had a
negative connotation. Here's what you may not know.
Did you know that Neanderthals have 125g more brain tissue than
we did? Their skulls are bigger.
So what happens? Do you know why they're called

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Neanderthals? Because the valley of Neander is
in Germany at the 51st latitude.That's the place where the
knockoff is, where they died. So what does that tell you?
That's where they lost the quantum yield to support the
huge brain who shows up us because our brain starts to
shrink. We're right at the right part so

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that we're the humanoid primate,the silly talking monkey that
actually go further in the dark.Do you know why that is?
Because we encephalize melanin endogenously inside of us, made
us more efficient. So why does this make sense to
you? Because I'm giving you a lot of
lessons here, but your doctor, So I think you'll figure it out.

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In the Human Genome Project, what did we all learn?
Because we were all young men then we learned something very
interesting. Craig Venter told the world
during Bill Clinton's, I guess you would call it his
administration, that they believe that humans would have
100,000 genes because we're so different than primates.
What did we find when it was allsaid and done?

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We had 300 more genes. So what does that mean, my
friend? When you look at an ape, you
look at a chimp, and you look at.
US. You can't you?
It's almost shocking how different we really are.
But yet the genes aren't the bigthing.
So what does that mean? It means that nature was

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thermally efficient. Genes aren't the key thing that
we've been told, but that's whatthe Rockefeller paradigm has had
us believe since since they found DNA, because it's a
biochemical story. When you understand this, genes
are costly in energy, but what do you find out about mammals
and how they're built biophysically?

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They're costly in time, and whenyou begin to understand they're
costly in time and not energy, then you begin to see that the
excess energy was used to encephalize.
This is the reason why the RPE and the SCN in the brain of us
is so incredibly important, because it allowed us to do
things that we couldn't do before.

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What's the fuel source? The fuel source that you got
taught and I got taught was ATP.Turns out it's the CSF that's
around the brain. It's actually the water that
melanin uses to charge separate into electrons that allowed us
to do this whole program. This whole program is an
optical, optical program built on chromosome 2.

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So the people. That you guys are accept or I
should say mad at now because you're just finding this stuff
out is Epstein. Here's where Sean, you may be
shocked. All this information I told you
has been sitting on my website form in the healthcare
practitioners part for doctors to read for 10 years.

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So guess what, none of this is new to me, but you know how it
started. Started LSU in the basement of
Charity Hospital, doing a littleproject on Robert O Becker.
That's actually how the story gets laid out.
And you know, I can tell you that Marino to this day doesn't
know some of the stuff that I told Becker.

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He doesn't know where the DC electric current comes from.
He's right now in his 80s. You got any?
I think he's retired, so you need to get him on as soon as
possible. And one of the questions that
you guys need to ask him once you get up to speed on his book.
And, and Becker's book, he'll want to talk to you about
Handler, but you need to zip them forward.

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When you know that melanin is a big part of the story and you
know that these guys are trying to take it apart.
You need to to really ask why didn't anybody pick up the torch
from Becker's work? The guy that's closest right now
in centralized medicine, but he's a Rockefeller guy, is

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Michael Levin in Boston. Michael Levin.
And this is hopefully where you spend a lot of your time talking
to Marino. Michael Levin has not advanced
the ball at all from where Becker is.
He's still trying to convince people that bioelectricity is
the key to the story. And I just told you the real key

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to the story is it's photo bioelectric.
It's all optical. So in other words, I want you to
understand fully before I'm donewith you why all of us should be
really mad as hell. As physicians, we were all
taught as young men that biologyis all from the inside out.
OK, If you know the biochemistry, you can figure

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everything out. But I just told you now it's
everything is outside in. Let me prove.
To you. How do you make vitamin D sun
hit your skin? 312 to 320 turns a cholesterol
Acer into vitamin D. What does it have to do?
Then it goes inside your kidney and liver gets transformed to
125. OK, I just told you outside in
what's another outside in story?Outside in story is UVA light

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hits neuropsin. The information in neuropsin
goes from the cornea, skin and your fat mass.
Where does it eventually go? Makes nitric oxide.
What does that do? It inhibits cytochrome C
oxidase. Outside in, Big deal.
What's the? Last one, cytochrome C oxidase,
A heme protein. OK, it's the protein that you
make metabolic water. That metabolic water has no

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deuterium in it. We haven't even got into the
biophysics of deuterium because I don't want your heads to
explode. But how does this work?
Near infrared light actually is the toggle switch that inhibits
or gets rid of nitric oxide and allows you to make more ATP in

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water. In other words, it turns energy
on. So what am I saying to you?
If you look at the inner mitochondrial membrane, it's
basically a whole story of the great Oxygenation event staring
you at the face, and you've never realized it.
It's telling you that in the Archaean Earth, when there was

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no ozone layer, you had every amount of radiation coming
through. Melanin was made with
ferridoxin, which is the original team protein that
occurred before any RNAs on the planet.
These all happen from self organization from the part
there. Melon was the shield that
protected tunneling. What did ferridoxins become that

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you know about? That's the iron sulfur cores
that are in every cytochrome in your mitochondria.
It's still fucking there 4.3 billion years later.
And what is the goal of that entire system?
To take huge amounts of radiation and turn it into one
pico ammeter, a current for you to build out your body plant.

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So what's the story? It's a story of electrical
resistance. In order in order to have the
proof of work of biology, you have to slow the power of this
chaotic light down. How did we do it?
One of the things that you learnabout chromosome 2 melanin gets
absorbed into the body, gets putin a pom C Pomp C is the only

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gene in in humans that is translated by UV light.
What else did we find out in the60s?
At the same time that Becker's doing his work, and I don't
expect you guys to know this. Guy named Roland Van Wyck and
Fritz Pop, both of them are biophysicist.
Find out that every cell alive emits ultra weak UV light.
How do you like that shit? So in other words, now you're
starting to see the biophysics story.

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Why don't you guys know about that?
Guess who blocked all their worktoo?
I'll give you a guess. Got it.
So when you start to see all thepieces fit, you start to go,
wow, this story is ancient. Do we know that paradoxes showed
up before there was Adna code? The answer is yes.

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In fact, I'm going to tell you slowing down the power of the
electromagnetic spectrum of Archaean Earth 4.6 billion years
ago was the key in getting the code.
It was also the key in encephalization.
We have to have electrical resistance in our body.
And that's the story why I told you about why evolution put the

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VDR receptor on the inner mitochondrial membrane, because
it turns out in the morning whenthe sun rises, that's when you
make metabolic water. That metabolic water has to bind
to melanin for you to make the small DC electric current.
Guess what happens as soon as UVlight comes on, especially?
UVB, you no longer use the ATP. You're now using what the

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original shield was built in theArchaean world.
You're using melanin that turns the power of the sun into usable
energy for you. Why you don't make any ATP when
there's UVA light. And that has been staring
everybody in the face for literally 70 years.
But Sean, you never learned on biochemistry.

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But the answer is sitting right there.
That's the reason why ATP isn't the key factor.
It's the reason why Gilbert Lingfound the things he did when he
argued with Peter Mitchell. Like all the stories that I'm
throwing at you right now, people who know my work really
good, they're going to sit thereand go, holy shit.
This is like the whole story laid out so you can physically

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understand. It's all discoverable.
There's papers on everything I've said, but you know what
your job is as the doctor. When I was 40 years old, I
didn't know any of this. Now I'm an old fuck.
And for 25 years I've been putting this all together and
now I understand it. And I understand it like you can
imagine. And I'm astounded by the

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biophysics that we come built with.
And when you really get it, you begin to understand that you
don't need drug supplements or even food to actually be really
healthy. What you need is you need to run
that Archaean system that's based in you that is a melanin
water battery. And the two parts of that
melanin and the original heme protein are still in you.

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OK, They're still in you. But what has Rockefeller
convinced all of your patients to do?
Wear sunglasses, sunscreen, clothes for the last 80 years,
right? The sun is toxic.
What did what did they tell yourpatients in Louisiana when COVID
came out? What did John Bel Edwards tell
people? Stay inside.
You start to understand now why because if you went outside they

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couldn't get you sick. They couldn't get your PCR test
to work. They couldn't sell you the next
bio weapon which was built, you know, they told you it was brand
new mRNA technology. Turns out it was built in based
on a charity hospital in the primate labs at Tulane and.
LSU You never knew that you wereblinded tonight.
You may know bits and pieces of it, but you didn't see how it

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all fit. Because it turns out, as soon as
you get the sun on your melanin water battery and that BCL 11
kicks in, you don't need any doctors.
You don't, you don't actually don't need big Pharma.
You become a decentralized savage.
So when you want to know why I'msitting on a podcast with two of

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my colleagues from LSU and I have no shirt on and they're
inside, that's proof that I understand the story and they're
learning. When they read the books and
they listen back to this podcast, you're going to astound
yourself everything that you thought was true.
And you'll hear podcasts that I did.

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The 18 months that I went back after figuring this all out at
Vanderbilt, it was the hardest 18 months I've ever been a
doctor because I realized I was lied to like a motherfucker.
And you know what made me the most angry?
You know, I'm a pretty smart guy.
I'm in the top of my class and everything I've ever done and I
got fooled. So that means I know everybody

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else can get fooled. And if you want to know the
reason why I get so angry and you hear my anger on Twitter, on
podcast, hopefully now when people listen to this podcast,
you'll begin to understand why because.
The people that ran the first system, that's the people of the
Green Revolution. That's the Rockefeller office in

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room 5600 in Rockefeller Center.When Rockefeller got into
biotechnology. Bro this is when our whole life.
Changed in medicine everything about what we believe was stolen
from us. We we truly as centralized
physicians, we have been active participants in time theft on

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our patients because we were made smart enough to learn what
they needed to learn, but we were not smart enough to ask
questions pasta and that's why you never got to the biophysical
realm. It's also the reason why they
canceled Becker because if you understand what I'm saying, you
can understand now why Becker was so dangerous this paradigm.

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He was basically telling you if you use the DC electric current,
you can heal fingertips that arecut off in humans.
And, you know, as a doctor, you're like, wait a minute, you
know, we know salamanders can dothat, but.
We can do that too. Like if we can do that, you're
going to start going, well, if somebody's got a cataract, why
can't we fix it? If somebody's got, you know, I

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don't know, metabolic syndrome, why can't we fix that?
Well, we can't. But guess what?
If you did that, would you use any big pharma drugs to do it?
The answer is no. And I think that's ultimately
what the lady that worked for Amgen.
Who I met in the early 2000s. When she handed me all those
papers, what she was trying to teach me, but what I kind of

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told you guys is where I went with it.
I figured out the evolutionary story backwards.
In other words, work post KT mammals.
That's after the last extinctionof that.
I went all the way back to the 4.6 billion years ago and I kept
kept looking at it. I'm like, all food webs are tied

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to photosynthesis. You know what photosynthesis
really is? It is.
A cheap story where all food webs come from, but it's after
the ozone layers made. That means we can only use
visible spectrum. And then I kept looking at
leptin. I'm going, you know, leptin's
got a 220 nanometer absorption spectrum.
I'm like that light doesn't cometo Earth.

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I said, how the hell can we havethis unbelievable energy account
in our sub key fat and we don't even have the God damn light
from the sun that makes it. And then it dawned on me.
Or maybe we're making the light inside of us from another
process, and that's when things really began to hit.
And then and. How did I figure out to look

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past photosynthesis? This will probably be the newest
stuff that I haven't really talked too much about that I
think you guys will appreciate. I haven't even released the blog
yet on my Patreon, but I think you'll like it because you were
all alive when this happened. So I gave you the timeline.
For me, how I was figuring all this out, what also happened

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between 1983 and 2001, this nuclear accident in Chernobyl in
the Ukraine. And, you know, it melted down
and the Russians eventually had to put a big steel thing over
the top. Everybody knows the story.
But you know, what everybody forgot is what was the story
before they confined the leak? There was a big.

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Pool. Of water below the reactor that
melted down. And if this nuclear meltdown had
have gone into those pools, it would have made steam and the
steam motor went up and ruined everything in Europe.
OK, so most of you probably knowthat Chernobyl melted down in
late April of 86, but you don't know on May 4th 1986.

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Three guys that worked in the plant.
Two of them were mechanic, I'm sorry, engineers.
The third guy, I think was a mechanic, volunteered to go down
in Chernobyl to see what was going on between the nuclear
pile, the graphite. That was in there and all the
spent fuel to see how close it was to these water pools.

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So they put on a wet suit, wet masks and rubber boots.
They strapped A dosimeter like you guys had when you're in
medical school on their left chest and also their right
ankle. And they go through because they
know the plant. And the story is that they told

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that the things were screaming, the dosimeters they found where
the problem was, they were able to drain the pool.
So nothing ever happened. But here's the part of the story
you guys never got told. When they came out, everybody
assumed just like they do because you and I were taught
the same thing, that nuclear spills and radiation is deadly,

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right? People die right away.
What if I told you that two of the three guys to this day are
still alive? One guy died, and he didn't die
of radiation sickness. He died of heart failure.
Wow, He just died not that long ago.
But here's the big part of the story that you're really going
to like. Do you know that they had tans
from their knees down when they came out?

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It was the most striking findingthat occurred when they came
out, and I guarantee you, you didn't.
Learn that. But guess what I did?
I found this out during that whole foray in the basement of
Charity Hostel, looking at Becker's work and this and that,
that that gamma radiation can actually turn melanin on like.

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This. And I thought to myself, now
that is some shit right there. And I, I never thought about the
significance of it, but when I learned about it, I started to
go, this is crazy. And I started to research a
little bit about nuclear physicsbecause, you know, I told you
I'm a smart guy, but I'm not trained in everything.
And that's what I found out about deuterium.

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I said, you know, the water thatwas down below that that nuclear
spill. It was filled with heavy water.
Sure. And I was like, I know that when
deuterium gets squeezed by radiation it emits UVC light.
Is that the reason why these guys actually got tans on their?

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Legs, because that's where the radiation was worse.
Believe it or not, the radiationwasn't bad up here.
They checked their dosimeters onthe top chest.
It was not bad. The one that was screaming was
the one in their boot, but they were only down there for a short
amount of time to do what they had to do.
None of them died. In fact, the story is with the

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Russians because it's now Ukraine, because most people
don't know that this city in Chernobyl is actually in
Ukraine, that these guys were extremely healthy their whole
life. You know, it's now 40 years
later. Now, what's the other part of
the story that's come up probably at the end of your
career? They told all of us when we were
young doctors that all these people would die.

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We'd have, you know, so many like Hiroshima, Nagasaki,
radiation sickness stories. None of that turned out to be
true. And then magically they started
to notice with no humans there, deer, animals, plants, bugs,
everything started to fucking grow in Chernobyl and nobody can

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figure out what's going on. So what did the Russians do
about 10 years ago? They had to redo the capsule
because it was starting to breakdown.
So that meant radiation was getting out, but the life around
it was growing crazy. It was.
It looked like it was growing atfaster rates, coming back faster
than they ever thought. So the Russians drill a hole
through the capsule, they put a camera, and you know what they

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find? They find bacteria and fungi.
Remember the earliest eukaryotisfungi filled with melanin
feeding off gamma radiation. The gamma radiation is coming
out and it's making everything grow faster.
So guess what I just told you? The story was when you have UN

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hydrated melanin. OK, no CCL at all.
Melanin is an excellent electrical conductor.
Mean it makes a huge DC electriccurrent.
What did they find out when theystarted testing all this after
Chernobyl? They found out that anything
that had melanin in it grew metabolically 20% faster.

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So that's why all the animals came back when they got the
cracks in the shield. All the animals were growing
faster than they thought, and they were very robust.
They were very healthy. You want to hear the other crazy
thing? They weren't radioactive.
How do you like that exactly? There should be a lot of wows
for you here, because remember what the pathways called?

(01:27:09):
Pathways called the look up thenmonocortin pathway in you.
So what am I telling you that not only is the sun not toxic,
there's a program built in you with melanin and water where
it's very beneficial. And we now know this this in
other words, this isn't Jack Cruz's opinion anymore.

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Turns out you're noble has told us that everything that happened
prior to photosynthesis was actually important.
And guess what that part of the Earth is called?
That's the Archaean Earth where there was no DNA, there was no
genes, all that was present was ferredoxin and melanin.
And have we proven already, and did Jeffrey Epstein help us do

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this, that if you take phenol phenolic compounds and put it in
the electromagnetic spectrum from gamma rays to RF radiation,
that you make adrenochrome and eventually make melanin?
The answer is yes. We now know that and he do that
and that's what they were doing at the Zorro Ranch before it.

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Got shut down, now I will. Tell you, the people that he
hired and blackmailed in the Human Genome Project, they were
not biophysicists. Most of them were biochemists.
So they were not going to figureout the key issue.
Where I think they left off is they found out that if you
terrorize kids, they make more adrenochrome and then that

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adrenochrome can become melanin and they found out.
That when you take melanin in that it increases your metabolic
rate. In other words, it's just like
the parabiosis story. Yes.
How do we know this 2014? In fact, if you want to, you
guys should probably do this. After the podcast.
There's a tweet out there that the guy put out in 2014.

(01:28:59):
A paper came out. That showed that if we eat
plants with chlorophyll, that weactually get a metabolic boost
from doing that. So when I saw that paper and you
already know that I know all thestuff that I'm telling you, I'm
going, does this mean that Epstein figured out adrenochrome
and melanin, chaga mushrooms andmushrooms?

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Anything with melanin in it can actually be like the fountain of
youth, don't you think? That's exactly what they were
doing and that was the ultimate that they figured out.
What was the ultimate for Rockefeller?
Rockefeller realized that he hadto make products to break down
chromosome 2 no matter what. The more that they attack

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chromosome 2, the better it would be for their business.
So that's effectively what the GLP one, GLP 2 and GLP three
drugs are doing. So I would just tell you the
answer for those those drugs andI will tell you this.
Do I think that people who are taking the GLP one drugs, if you

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lived in tropical sun while you took them, could you shrink
yourself but still not kill yourself by lowering your
heroplasmy? I think it's possible, but is
anybody going to sign up to do that study by themselves?
Probably not if you know the story.
That I'm telling you, you absolutely have to be a fucking
moron to take the GLP one drugs,because anybody who has got a

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nice car will tell you if you take the tailpipe off and Weld
shut the exhaust, you know the engine's going to die.
Well. I don't think any of the people
taking these drugs have ever been told this from, from how
shall we say, an informed consent way.
Why? Because all those people that I
told you that are controlling the peer review process in the
United States will never let these papers out, which is why I

(01:30:47):
told you about the blouse study that just came out.
I'm hoping you guys can look at it.
You can see what I've said. Most of what I told you here
I've blasted on Twitter the lastcouple of days because I think
it's important and I don't thinkpeople really understand how it
ties to this whole story, you know, that I laid out for you,

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that began for me really, when Iwas a smart ass at Charity
Hospital. Yeah.
And, you know, that's kind of that kind of experience.
The JFK movie, The whole story, it just is fortunate that it all
happened around my training and that I wasn't close minded and

(01:31:32):
just learned what you know the guys at LSU taught me in
biochemistry. Like I always kept an open mind
about this and I can tell you when I found out the story about
left and from that Lady, that was the greatest gift I think I
was ever given as a physician. Because when you learn about a

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new hormone and you have no ideahow it works and you find out
it's in the sub Q5, but then youfind out that this is ancient
pathway in mammals that goes back all the way 65,000,000
years. You got it.
You got to say, OK, I need to figure this shit out.
You know, this, this is this is this is a big story.
And it's like that, I told, likeI told Rick Rubin when I was on

(01:32:14):
this podcast with Huberman. It's the greatest story never
told to any doctor. And I thought by telling Rick
and by telling Huberman bits andpieces of the story that would
even stimulate, you know, a Rockefeller MK Ultra, DARPA
trained PhD at Stanford. And dude, he's, he's acted the
opposite way. He told me he's going to have me

(01:32:36):
on his podcast. We're going to do this.
We're going to talk about that. Now he's out there talking shit
about me and it just goes to show you him talking shit about
me doesn't bother me. It goes to the point that I'm
trying to make to use that the propaganda to keep us away from
the truth as positions. This means that we'll long,
we'll continue to be compliance with this program to harm the

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public. And I know when you took your
oath and I took my oath, that's not what we signed up for.
We didn't sign up to be Joseph Mengola, but effectively that's
what centralized medicine has turned us all into, and we don't
know it. We're not complicit in terms of
we don't have the intent, but weare complicit because we have a

(01:33:21):
biochemical paradigm only, and we don't understand that the
biochemical paradigm is controlled by the biophysics
from the outside in. So instead of looking at the
world like this, we should be looking at it outside in and you
know, many things have happened in my career that have happened
in your careers, like when the story of epigenetics came out
and Duke in 2003 and we found out that epigenetics is more

(01:33:44):
important than genetics. And then, you know, Philip Paul
writes a a book that says, you know, maybe it's time for us to
forget about genes. Maybe it's not important.
Like I know there's there's a chance out there for the young
doctors to get the real story. But I'm going to tell you, I
believe a silverback gorillas that we are the talk.

(01:34:04):
We have a duty to teach those kids because I can tell you the
pH DS like Uberman, the pH DS that are in LSU, both in
Shreveport and New Orleans, my friend Sean, they don't know,
but we just talked about on thispodcast and they don't know it
because they're never going to be taught it in their
curriculums lives not the end all be all.

(01:34:29):
I mean, frankly, we're all institutionalized and thought
process to some degree. I mean, it wasn't until, I mean,
I was walking myself out of it for years and then in I guess
2021 hour, well, whenever it was, you were on Huberman Spot
or Brick's podcast with Huberman.
I heard that podcast and it bothered me.
I just have to tell you, Jack, it bothered me so bad.

(01:34:50):
It rattled me to my core. I listened to that three hour
podcast 4 times because I wantedyou to be wrong.
I mean like, because what you said in that podcast meant that
almost half of what I learned inMed school, if not more, was not
true. Or 99 if you remember in that
podcast? He asked.
I know what you said. I remember what you said.

(01:35:12):
His friend Eddie Chang is also aneurosurgeon at UCSF.
Said 50%. I said no, it's 99.9%.
And it's funny, I started playing with it like I was like,
OK, well, let's just try. So, you know, like I had a, I
had a knee injury, I had an ankle fracture.
I started playing with the red light panel.
I started playing with this. I started trying to, I had a
patient, I started making him getting in an ice bath.

(01:35:33):
And frankly, I did it not because I thought you were
right. I was trying to see if you were
wrong. I was like this doesn't it can't
be this. Well, Sean, I got to tell you
this story because you'll appreciate it, because you're
making me laugh, because, you know, normally I would probably
be getting on people like peoplelisten this podcast and say
Jack's being awfully nice to these guys.
I'm going to tell you. Right.

(01:35:55):
The reason why you really made me laugh with the last story, I
got to tell you this because once you know this history, then
you'll say, OK, that's why he's not making fun of us.
So Einstein comes up with the miracle paper to discover the
photoelectric effect in 19 O five.
OK, he publishes it. Nobody can fucking believe what

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he publishes. What does the United States do
in 2000 and 1921? They hire a guy named George
Milliken to prove Einstein wrong.
Milliken does all the experiments because remember
when Einstein wrote his paper, everything was a thought
experiment in his head. Milliken does the the Seminole
work cruise Einstein right? You know what centralized
medicine does? They give Milliken his Nobel

(01:36:40):
Prize before Einstein. Einstein doesn't get it till the
next year. So I just want you to realize.
That when you say this to me, the reason I can't be mad at you
is because if Einstein got used,yeah, I don't expect, you know,
anybody to come out and pat me on the back.
I'm not really interested in being pat on the back.
What makes me happy is that 2 guys in Louisiana who went to

(01:37:03):
the same health system I did, you're at the end of your career
and you're both going. You know, there's something
about this story that just perturbs me.
And you know what? That's a good thing.
I'm going to tell you. I wish maybe this was my
mistake, that because Chantal pushed me out three years ago.

(01:37:23):
To have that podcast with you, Herman, maybe I should have done
it early. Maybe I was wrong and she was
right. And she said, look.
Maybe you need to put the targeton your back so that everybody
else gets woken up. Because she said to me, she
goes, if you don't do this, she goes, she goes, you're assuming
that somebody else out there is going to figure this out.

(01:37:44):
She goes, how many other Einsteins are out there?
He's the only guy that came up with those 4 miracle papers.
How do you know what you're saying is not as important as
that? And I looked at her.
I said, well, that makes my ego feel really good.
But, you know, and I thought about it and I said, you know,
she's kind of right, like kind of right.
It's not going to be, there's not going to be anybody else out

(01:38:05):
there that was at Charity Hospital from 1986 through 1999
to have the experiences that allowed me to figure all of this
shit out. And then when you think about at
the same time, the stuff with Chernobyl goes on and radio
synthesis comes out. I mean, you and I were both

(01:38:25):
taught. Radiation was a really bad
thing. And why?
Why is this story even more important?
You know, your buddy over here said he read Haslam's book.
We'll think about what what Doctor Mary's monkeys really
found. They took high end gamma
radiation, irradiated the fucking SV 40, and they made the
Cancer more virulent. That's exactly what we just said

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happened in Chernobyl. So realize that this
radiosynthesis story is huge. And what are we doing now to
people? We're fucking taking people with
cancer and radiate them. It's about the stupidest fucking
thing you could ever do if you really think about it, because
you're making their cancers groweven more.
You got it. It doesn't make any sense.

(01:39:09):
Like what we need to do is we need to get them in the sun.
We need them to get to make water from CCO, from near
infrared light. That's the reason why that slide
that I always show about UVA light and near infrared light,
that is Doctor Becker's work. That is how I took Becca from
1977 to 2026. You know, do I hope that Levin

(01:39:33):
Martin Picard, his wife NaroshanMorogan, who's a biophysicist,
like listen to this podcast and go, all right, fuck Jack is just
keep punching us in the face because this is this is, you
know, the, the big problem I have.
And I think you guys understand this as doctors, when you say
something as extraordinary as I'm, I'm saying it to you.

(01:39:55):
People turn around and say you need extraordinary proof.
That's some bad news for you guys.
I have the extraordinary proof, OK?
The problem is just what you said, Sean, which is why you
made me chuckle, said Jack. I wanted you to be wrong.
And guess what, Sean, I'm going to tell you that 18 months for
me and Vanderbilt, I felt exactly the same fucking way you

(01:40:16):
did. Because you know what?
I realized if I wasn't wrong. I just wasted 40 years of my
life becoming a neurosurgeon andyou want to know something?
That's the reason why I'm an ornery cock sucker, because I
realize that for the 1st 40 years of my life I wasn't as

(01:40:37):
smart. As I thought it was.
That's where I'm at and it's kind of hard to admit that to a
group of doctors, but I will tell you that I'm far past that
now. I mean, I've gone through this
now for 2025 years and what I'velaid out all the pieces and

(01:40:58):
parts and you have to realize onmy Patreon blog every single
part that I've told you today, like not only am I telling you,
but I'm laying out the science behind it like with sites and.
When you read it, you go Jesus Christ.
You know, and I, I get this fromall my members.
So like, dude, it's so hard to read.

(01:41:19):
I said, yeah, but you don't realize I'm not really writing
this for you. I'm writing for some future
biophysicist or physicist to go,this fucking guy figured this
shit out in 1990s and we still are screwing people over, you
know, and it'll be 2050 then. And I do, I believe by me
putting this stuff down in Patreon on my website form

(01:41:43):
everywhere it is. It's like the Library of
Alexandria that two guys, like you may say, you know what, fuck
it, I'm going to retire, but I'mgoing to go back and teach the
medical students some part of this story to fire them up so
that they know about where they were in Shreveport.
Andrew Marino was actually here.He had a Sikh sanctuary after
the government came after him when he was at Syracuse and he

(01:42:06):
showed up in Louisiana. Think about that.
The orthopedic surgeons at LSU, Shreveport, now this is a big
statement for me to make because, you know, neurosurgeons
and orthopedic surgeons don't get along so well.
I think the orthopedic surgeons in Shreveport are owed a debt of
gratitude by humanity by giving Andrew Marino sanctuary so that

(01:42:28):
he was able to finish his life and continue to fight Becker's.
Battle after Becker's dead and you know Andrew.
Is going to be dead soon too. And that's why I hope you guys
talk to him because as far as I'm concerned, he's like one of
the apostles, man. Becker to me is like Jesus and

(01:42:51):
Becker in terms of Jesus didn't know really what he found, but
what he really found. And I tell people isn't it kind
of upsets people if you're a scientist, but I'm going to tell
you guys because I don't care. Every time I look at the center
panel, the Sistine Chapel, and you see those two fingers.

(01:43:12):
Becker's work is is the white plaster between them.
That's awesome how I feel. And that story Cannot die,
cannot die with AI, and I think it's going to die with AII.
Don't think this is ever going to get out.

(01:43:35):
Yeah, I have concerns about AI big time.
I think it's a big a big wet blanket to smother us all.
Well, I think it is too. And that's why I think doing
podcasts like this, it's kind ofimportant because I want people
to listen to this and don't believe a goddamn word that I
said to you. I want you to Fact Check
everything I said. But your duty is once you Fact

(01:43:55):
Check me and you say shit, then you need to become a savage and
you need to start teaching people.
Look, we need to start doing things differently.
Like, you know, and people, you know, people say to me all the
time, I mean, this is a perfect example.
I'm living in El Salvador now because it's not safe for me to
live in my own country. But you see, I'm sitting on a

(01:44:17):
5000 square foot teeth deck. I'm going to show you this.
On the deck is a sundial. This sundial tells me where to
go on the deck at the time of the day.
I built the whole house so that I can sit in the sun the right
time of the day. And you see, I'm a an uncoupled
apple type, Irish, German descent freckles and I can stay

(01:44:42):
out here all day. But you were told by the
dermatologist at LSU you'll die.I got news for you.
I'm proving to you that Chernobyl doesn't make you die.
It actually is built into us. And the problem is you need to
know how to use it and. That's the stuff.
That we need to be teaching the kids in medical school now and

(01:45:04):
we can't. Because if I say this where I go
to a medical meeting, you know, somewhere in Louisiana and have
this discussion, you know what the state board's going to do.
You know what some of your idiotfriends are going to do?
They're your colleagues, but they're really not your friends.
I mean, look at the next state next to you.
Look what they're doing to marryTaliban in Texas.
I mean, it's a perfect example. Why?

(01:45:26):
Like, people ask me all the time, Jack, do you put all your
Patreon stuff and this and that behind a paywall because you're
trying to make money? I'm like.
Dude, do you? Fucking really Think I need your
5 bucks? No, what, what is the the whole
point? The whole point is the medical
boards, the people that that don't want this information out,
they're not going to pay to get you have to get behind that wall

(01:45:50):
and read it. And why do I make it $5 a month?
It's very simple. What's the cost of coffee like
if you going to argue with me for 5 bucks for a cost of
coffee. I mean just think about the
conversation we had today. We didn't know each other.
Was this worth you buying me a coffee?
Absolutely 2. I can get you 2 coffees bro.

(01:46:11):
There you go. And that's that's the point that
I try to make to people. But instead people say, Nah, I'd
rather spend 250 bucks and go see the Saints get their ass
kicked. OK, if you want Circus Maximus.
You know, go for it. But realize when you go in
there, you're going to see all the Ochsner signage.
You're going to see all the things for BIATA and and

(01:46:34):
Ozempic. That's how they're making their
money. And when you understand that
they're all plugged in the same system, or you watch the Saints
on TV in Louisiana and then every other commercial is a
fucking drug commercial, you start to realize they are really
fucking dumbing us. Down.
You know, like I, I tell you, last time I was in Louisiana, I

(01:46:55):
had a really interesting discussion with a couple of
doctors because we're talking about what's going on in
downtown in Louisiana with LCMC,Ochsner and some of the other
groups. And I know a lot about what's
going on in your neck of the woods and Alexandria and
Lafayette, how things are changing there in terms of
healthcare. And one of the things that I was

(01:47:17):
stunned at, and I'll share this with you, I probably shouldn't,
but you know, I'm officially retired.
I'm not going back anymore. One of the things I was stunned
about, about central Louisiana, is there any time we had trauma
patients come in and I had to take care of them?
Do you know that we had to call your city up to get blood
products? And I want you to think about
all the things that we talked about in here.

(01:47:40):
Do you, do you understand why this is such a big deal when
you're a trauma surgeon? Which neurosurgeon is like?
Blood is the lifeline to regenerating people.
I just told you that from Becker's work.
And what are they doing now in hospitals?
Like if you're not a hospital based physician, you're never
going to know this. Like if you're a General
practitioner, you probably use ahospital, so you never fucking

(01:48:00):
go in there. But what I hope people do by
listening to this, they go and start talking to each other.
You need to start guys in the hospital, say, do me a favor,
put an order in on one of your patients for six units of
platelets and tell me what they tell you.
You'll be stunned. Go, go, go.
Put an order in, you know, for blood to be given you.
You will see that the administrators will come down

(01:48:23):
and have a discussion with the trauma surgeon as well.
We can't do this. Like, how is it you're a level 1
trauma center and you don't havea blood bank or a level 2?
Like you got that situation in central Louisiana and in
Lafayette right now. You got to start asking yourself
these questions. Go, this is a bigger story, my

(01:48:44):
friend, than just the drug companies.
Like I'm telling you, these guysrunning these hospital systems,
they're as fucking corrupt as you can imagine.
And most of them are tied in with the governors of these
states. I'm going to tell you, I know
Mary Tally Bowden is really up to her neck with Abbott, but the

(01:49:05):
old Louisiana governor who I canspeak on because that's when I
was there, John Bel Edwards was the most fucking corrupt guy
ever. And if I told you the stories
that I knew, I told Sean, your two friends that were the
doctors that you got involved with me, I told them some
stories about John Bel Edwards that I can't even talk about

(01:49:28):
publicly, that I knew about whathappened during.
COVID. If people knew those stories,
they would understand why this podcast is really important.
They're not trying to help us. Everybody in government is
fucking trying to kill us and they're doing everything
possible to do it. And they're hoping that you

(01:49:49):
continue stay asleep because you're watching the Pelicans,
you're watching the the freakingSaints, or you're worried about
the baseball team. I don't even know what the
baseball team's name. It used to be the Zephyrs down
there, or you going to a concertor you going to the French
Quarter. Go to Mr. BS.
Whatever it is, I want you to understand that I need you to

(01:50:11):
pay a little bit more attention to the truth and have an open
mind. Yeah, you're going to get some
bullshit thrown at you here and there.
But I can tell you I'm not goingto throw bullshit at you.
Why? I'm not trying to fix our
country to the politics anymore.I'm trying to fix our profession
that has been absolutely decimated through this

(01:50:34):
Rockefeller liaison that goes all the way back to the Flex
report. But when people find out that
the real morphogenesis from JohnD to David, David is how we got
Epstein, Epstein is how we got the pub smear guys.
That's how we got. Peer review completely taken

(01:50:56):
away from us. The reason why?
US three, we're morons for most of our career.
That's the reason why. And we weren't smart enough to
go the next step, to ask the next question.
And why? Because they didn't teach us
that at LSU. They didn't teach us that at
college. We didn't learn that in high

(01:51:16):
school. And certainly our parents didn't
tell us. Parents told us that we should
follow authority all the time. If you really look at the path
to being a doctor, it's very centralized.
You know, they're filtering you so that you're a good soldier
for the paradigm in power. But you have to realize when you
see it that way, you realize that there's a negative to that.

(01:51:37):
That means that you're part of groupthink.
And now, like when you're an awake doctor and you're
decentralized, like I'm trying to do the the doctors.
I mean, look, I do you understand why?
I know there's people that don'tlike me very much.
I get it. But here's the problem.
And This is why I'm such a hard ass.
I'm pretty fucking smart, so I like the dumb asses to come at

(01:51:59):
me because I'm a fucking great white shark and I'm going to
come take them all out. That's the truth.
I I got no more time for any of these idiots that trained me in
LSU. The the guys who I have ultimate
respect for. I can tell you right now that

(01:52:19):
would be. Probably David Klein, Nicholas
Bazan, who's still alive in the Department of Ophthalmology.
I would put Marino in that group.
John Kent, who used to run oral surgery in, in in OMFS, if it
wasn't for him. I don't become a neurosurgeon,

(01:52:43):
and I think that's about it in terms of doctors.
Now, are there other people on my training that I'll never
forget? Yeah.
The Crnas that trained me, those, those, those CNRSCRNAS
linked me to the Haslam story. You may not know this, but one
of our anesthesiologist dad ran the primate center that was in

(01:53:09):
New. Orleans One in Mandeville.
Well, no. This is in New Orleans.
This is that. Tulane.
That eventually got relocated toCovington where it is now.
Now it's a level 4 bio weapons program.
But his name is Rheopol. And you go look at your Haslam
book, look it up. You'll see that name in there.
While his son trained me in anesthesia.

(01:53:32):
So when you see the pieces and parts.
All of these, all of these things are important.
There was a lot of people that Icrossed paths, was in Louisiana,
that I don't think the story I told you today could have ever
come to fruition if they didn't play their role.

(01:53:55):
Makes sense. That's amazing.
Is what it? It's not what it's not.
Yeah. So can I ask you a semi clinical
question then, since we talked about basically where it's solar
battery, I don't know if that's a good term for you, but I kind

(01:54:15):
of that's what I took. We're a little bit, we're a
little bit more sophisticated. Than that but when you
understand and I would tell you just read my decentralized
medicine series from one to where I think right now I'm at
98. You read all of those and you're

(01:54:37):
going to find out that the implications of the story I told
you today are going to shock you.
Some of the same things that happened in Chernobyl are
happening in ourselves. Some of the same things that
happened in the sun are happening in you right now.
And when you see that develop for you, then you're going to

(01:54:59):
go, OK, the clinical story. Like I just had an ESPN reporter
here literally sitting 10 feet away from me.
She's got a disease called vitiligo.
You guys have heard that? Yeah.
She was really interested in thepicture that I always show on
Twitter of the black lady who I fixed her vitiligo in three or
four months. I can't fix that Lady without
the story. I told you about Chernobyl.

(01:55:20):
I told you how I did it. You'd fucking shit your pants.
But it's it's a cool story. But she's doing a documentary on
it because she got that condition from being a reporter,
and she's doing kind of what youguys are doing with me today.
She's putting herself out there,putting her job at risk by

(01:55:40):
actually trying to get that story out.
Why? Because her vitiligo right now,
it's like 98% healed just by listening to what I'm doing,
even though she's in front of TVcameras.
All the time. Wow, So I have patients in my
clinic now that'll ask me like, well, doc, is there a difference

(01:56:02):
between and my answer is always yes, but maybe I'm wrong.
But their their, their question is always you tell me I need to
get up and get in the sunlight. But what if I can't get in the
sunlight? What if it's overcast?
Or can I just use a red light panel?
And I'm like, I think there's benefits to red light panels,
but I don't think there's a substitution for the sun.

(01:56:23):
I'm glad you said it that way because it's the truth.
This is my answer and I'm givingyou my advice as a doctor what I
would tell my patients. OK.
If you can't get up for the sunrise by term life insurance,
that's why I call them. The.
Single most important part of the sun is actually AM sunlight

(01:56:44):
like if you can get people like here since I'm at the 13th
latitude the day never changes here.
Like it even changes in Louisiana cuz you guys,
Shreveport, you're probably 3132, but when I was in New
Orleans, we were 28 and even, you know, when we're coming to
June, the solstice, I mean a couple what, a week from now is
the equinox. Equinox in the Northern

(01:57:06):
hemisphere is when you have 12 hours and 12 hours of darkness
day and night from March 20th all the way to June 21st, days
in Louisiana will get longer. So you guys will get an extra
hour, hour and a half. Here I only get an extra half
hour and. Then change.
It doesn't change much. So for me, like this morning, I

(01:57:28):
mean, you guys saw the shit showthat we had with technology
where we had to do all the crazy.
Things. Why don't I mind?
You know, I'm sitting out here on my deck in the sun.
I've been out here since this morning from 6:00 AM.
It's now where you are, I guess it's 12:43 where I am.
It's 11:43 because we don't do daylight savings times.

(01:57:51):
Right. So I've been out here for 5 1/2
hours. OK, that's it.
And. The reason why this is
important, if you go back and relisten to your own podcast, you
do with me because I really wantyou to understand this AM son,
is when you're getting infrared A and near infrared light.
What does that do to CCO? That's when you make the most

(01:58:13):
metabolic water. That's when you use an ATP.
As soon as the first bit of UVA light hits your eye, your skin
or your fat and it gets signaledthrough what neuropsin.
Neuropsin is called OPN 5 for those scientists to listening.
That's what makes nitric oxide. That's what turns off the ATP

(01:58:36):
story. So in other words, you're using
the Archaean sun. That's where melanin on the
surface becomes usually important to you.
You're no longer making ATP, which is also the reason why the
acronym that I know both of you learned because I did.
We always tell people to eat. Like a king in the morning, then

(01:58:59):
a Prince at lunch and a pauper at night.
You don't realize that the ancients figured this out, that
if you eat more early in the day, that's when you're making
the ATP at nighttime. You shouldn't be eating it all.
So what I tell people is you're using the Archaean sun and
melanin. To control the mitochondrial
matrix from outside in AS. Soon as you get the signal of UV

(01:59:22):
light, now you know most of yourpeople, even though you're in a
good latitude, they're at work, they're not never getting the UV
signal. So you realize that everybody's
screwed. That means that they're having
to use their ATP way longer and that's the reason why they're
eating more food. Because what is the food?
Designed to do. It's a photosynthetic barcode
that augments the Archaean battery.

(01:59:44):
What are you trying to do? You're trying to use more of the
Archaean battery than the ATP story.
This is why you always hear me being so controversial when I
say food doesn't matter. I'm telling you exactly why I
say it now, because it doesn't. But you have to be solar powered
to get the benefit. And you are correct in saying to
me, Jack, most of my patients are rhinos.

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I mean, that's what you're effectively saying to me.
Because what? What does it mean when you can't
get in? That light means that you have
armor of a rhino. You don't have skin like in a
elephant. So how can their brain be big?
And this is the reason why thesepeople can't think.
This is the reason why they makebad choices.
This is why you always hear me say these are the dopamine
people in your life. Those are the energy vampires.

(02:00:29):
Like they say it all the time. I have doctors.
A doctor yesterday on on Twittersaid to me, look, Jack, my
joints are falling apart and I'mon hormone replacement theory.
I just need an answer from you. Should I keep taking the
hormones? And I said, you don't realize it
because you're a doctor. You don't make any hormones
naturally. That's why you're taking them.
And you don't realize your joints are falling apart because

(02:00:50):
of the story I told you about Becker.
You're never in the sun. So realize what you're doing.
If you want to know the truth, you want to feel better, quit
your fucking job as a doctor. Or just do your job as a doctor,
say two or three days a week. Like that's what I did when I
was actively practicing the last20 years of my life.
I'm going to tell you what I did.

(02:01:11):
I moved my surgery schedule up. Started my first case at 8:00 in
the morning. OK, made sure I finished at
three. I only work three days a week.
I meaning the clinics, I would do my surgeries and I was very,
very fast at surgery. Chantal will tell you that.
Really good at it. But what did I do with my
anesthesiologist? I made them recover my patients

(02:01:32):
in the courtyard where the sun was.
And you know what? They couldn't believe that my
patients would get rid of all their anesthetic gases like this
and they'd be able to go home. I actually was able to do
craniotomies and send people home the same day because the
anesthesiologist worked with me.They didn't understand it like
you guys right now understand. More of Jack Cruz than any

(02:01:53):
doctor I worked with. Why?
Because I couldn't talk to them about this because if I did, I'd
be in front of the state medicalboard.
So understand what I'm saying toyou.
What you makes me happy. I I never met you before, but it
tells me you're a good dude. You're you're telling people the
truth. AM light is irreplaceable.
Every podcast, every influencer,they always ask me what's the

(02:02:17):
single number one most importantthing for people to do?
The fucking sunrise. Never miss another one.
If you miss it, you're a retard.It's as simple as that.
And and you want to know The funny thing about it?
Where did that? Where did I get that knowledge?
This is going to shock both of you from the monk who sold his.
Ferrari. There's a passage in there where

(02:02:38):
Julian Battle, who's the lawyer that leaves his job, sells his
Ferrari. He goes to see the monks on the
top of the mound and one of the monks tell him.
In a human. Life You're designed to see
25,000 sunrises. At the time I read the book, I
thought to myself, how many sunrises have I seen?

(02:02:59):
It was less than 50. And then I said to myself, OK,
now I know. Why I got the problems I got and
what did I realize was my numberone problem?
My job. So what did I do?
I mean, you guys know what a neurosurgeon does.
I had to retool my job to fit this whole thing.

(02:03:21):
Like I realized the answer wasn't taking drugs and hormone
replacement therapy and all thisother bullshit.
The answer was I had to fix the solar palette panel problems so
that I could keep things going. And what did I do over that 20
years? I stopped doing surgeries that I
really like to do that. Kept me in.

(02:03:44):
All day, like aneurysm surgery, AVM surgery, brain tumors.
I love doing that stuff. But guess what?
It was, it was no good for me, you know?
And then I had to think, OK, howwhat good am I for my patients
if I'm not good enough for myself?
You know, that was the mindset that I had.
And I said, what did doctors get?
Taught in the Rockefeller regime.
Oh, no, you do everything possible for your patients.

(02:04:04):
Sacrifice everything you know. And then I thought about, wow,
this is really affecting me. When's the last time I went to
my daughter's birthday party? When's the last time I took my
kid to a soccer game? I dude, I wasn't.
Doing any of that shit and. I thought to myself, you know,
that's. Bad enough I said, but I'm not
getting any outside time. I I would go to work when it was
dark and come home when it was dark.

(02:04:26):
And that's like, OK, now you want to know why you're a fat
fuck and your knees falling apart at 40 years old?
OK, I figured out pretty fast like this is the downside of
being smart. Like I'm like, I'm the biggest
dumb ass you can ever imagine and I'm looking in the freaking
mirror and I'm going just as yousaid, Sean.
If this is right, I should be able to fix my problems without

(02:04:49):
any help. And what did I do about the
famous podcast? I haven't talked about this a
long time but I did podcast a long time ago and I told people
when I did it and I figured out the leptin prescription in the
cold thermogenesis protocol. I lost 111 lbs in 11 months and
I lost total of 157 lbs and I think 14.

(02:05:15):
And now looking back on it, I'veprobably put on fifty of those
pounds back on, mainly because Iwent back to work during COVID
to figure out what they were doing.
And I've been here, retired, I'dsay.
For. A year and a half trying to
reverse the process. You know, unfortunately, I'm

(02:05:38):
finding myself right now too much on social media trying to
get the story out. But I'm telling you guys why?
Because now that the story's been out in podcasts, now people
want to read about, you know, how I did it, like the blogs, I
will tell you the CPC blogs. And just so you guys know, I

(02:06:01):
call them CPCS for something that you went through your
training. They're called clinical.
Pathologic conferences, you know, it's like our M&M
conference that we have over students and what am I doing
there? I'm telling you exactly how I
figured out. Piece by piece.
Laying it all out and then I tryto occasionally throw in a
clinical blog like you said, yousaid, Jack, I want, I want to

(02:06:24):
understand how the theory meets the practice.
Like what am I telling my patients?
Right. You you happen to ask me the the
greatest question because AM sunlight is how you hydrate
melanin. Hydrating melanin is how you
make the one Pico Amir, that's actually photo repair in a
nutshell. Like your friend over here is
getting ready to read Becker's book.

(02:06:46):
He's going to read Marino's book.
I just gave him the punchline. So he's going to go through
reading these books now going, OK, I know what I know what this
is all about. But when you see what Becker.
Did and Marino Did. And then you.
Distill it down to that you go. Oh.
My God like. This guy's whole life was based
around figuring that shit out, and then they buried it, and

(02:07:09):
then that's when, you know, everybody takes the information
a different. Way like I can tell you for me.
There's the biggest. Punch in the mouth I ever got.
I always, I always tell people this when Mike Tyson said
everybody's got a plan till you get punched in the mouth.
No. I'm going to, I'm just going to
tell you that's kind of what happened to me.

(02:07:31):
And you know, it may not happen to you when you read it, but I
promise. You, because you're a doctor.
There's one thing I do know about all doctors, they're
fascinated by biology, and when they find out the biology is not
a fundamental science that biophysics is, and everything
that you thought in biology was unique is actually in physics.

(02:07:51):
There's one equation that everything that we talked about
today comes down to. It's called the lagrarian.
And if you saw the equation, it's L = T * V.
And when you find out what V is,V is everything you and I have
talked about today. T is everything Rockefeller
medicine has done when you boil it down to that equation.

(02:08:15):
And you understand what that equation means and how it it's
tied to confinement, the electromagnetic force in the
ultra weak force. And you see how I figured this
shit all out and not having a background in physics, like I'm
going to tell you I'm a very curious motherfucker.
I really AM. And I find out that I've been

(02:08:35):
lied to. I'm I'm the wrong person to hang
around with, not stop. I mean, Chantelle will tell you
I am. Like before we talked today, I
was writing on my form. Because believe it or not, two
of my members asked me the question about rhinos and

(02:08:56):
elephants tied to Michael Crawford's, you know, Seminole
book on DHA, which is tied to the evolution of the human
brain. And I said, man, do I, do I tell
them the truth or I try to make this stupid?
And I said, not fucking. I'm just going to tell them the
truth. And I know when I tell people
this, they're going to sit thereand they're going to go because,

(02:09:16):
you know, there's religious. People out there that believe,
you know, it's only 6000 years old.
They don't believe in evolution and all that shit.
And I'm like, that's fine because it doesn't matter if you
believe in evolution or not because what does Genesis say in
the beginning? Let there be light.
Well, that's true. That's what I'm telling you.
The only problem with that storyis God didn't tell you the
recipe. If you listen to this podcast,

(02:09:39):
yeah, we're talking about the recipe.
That's that's really the key. And you may not like how I
figured the recipe out because it is a 4.6 billion year old
story. I would agree with you though,
the last 6000 years are probablythe most interesting part.
But I'm not interested in half truth.

(02:09:59):
I want to know the whole truth before they lay me down or burn
me, whatever they're going to do.
From the time I was a little boygrowing up in New York City and
seeing the T Rex and then seeingthe Archaeopteryx, the first
flying dinosaur. And I thought to myself, I never
thought in a million years that third grade trip that would have

(02:10:20):
had such a huge impact on my life.
But it did. And like these facts, like the
facts I learned about Chernobyl,the the, the fact that Doctor
Klein pushed me to do this Becker thing, like this should
be a story to everybody out there.
You may not want to do something, but if somebody who

(02:10:41):
you respect or somebody's doing something to give you an
education you don't have, it's the mark of an educated mind.
It takes something you fundamentally don't understand
think about it and then come up with how it fits into your
current existence. And I'm going to tell you from
the time I was a little boy, I'mgoing to say time I was 2 years

(02:11:03):
old, I've been the most curious person I've ever met.
When my family always tells me when I was a kid, I'd never shut
up asking questions. I'd ask questions about
everything. That's why they sent me to the
museums. They said here's a dollar, get
on the seven train and go take the the train.
At that time, the subway was $0.35.

(02:11:23):
That left me $0.30 to get a, a pretzel and a Coke.
That's what I did. You know, I, I learned the
entire New York City subway system when I was literally 7-8
years old. I know I didn't have a a parent.
I didn't have a parent with me. I would go to the museums.

(02:11:45):
And the rich kids from, you know, 5th Ave. and Park Ave.
would hire these, you know, niceJewish ladies that would
volunteer and take the kids around to teach them all this
stuff. I didn't have the money to pay
for this. I just followed them around.
And listen, let me tell you something.
Looking back on my career, I think that those those ladies

(02:12:06):
taught me more than I learned atLSU.
That's the truth. I hate to say it.
I know it's another punch in themouth, but it fits, Sean, with
what I told you earlier that yougot it.
You got to realize when you're acentralized doc, 99% of what
you've been told is horseshit. And you know, you don't realize

(02:12:27):
it's horseshit until you get to this biophysical level.
And I'm going to tell you when you see it for yourself the
first time, I promise both of you this, when you really see
it, bro, that's when you should start writing because that'll be
some of the best stuff you'll ever put out in your life.

(02:12:49):
I'm not kidding you. It's it's if you know what it's
like, it's like taking the grapes off a vine and squeezing
the shit out of it for the best that's inside of you.
Why? Because it's the essence.
Of who you are. You know.

(02:13:11):
This stuff is really exciting. I mean, it's, I think it.
Would be more exciting if I was 20 years old but.
Well, I had AI had a colleague, he and he's older than me now,
but you know, we both talked about it and he's, you know, I
said, you know, for the first time I feel excited again about
medicine. And I don't mean medicine like
we went to medical school to learn medicine.

(02:13:32):
I mean medicine in the sense of an observational science, trying
to do things for the sake of making mankind better.
Yep, it's exciting. It is No I and.
And see, the fact that you can say that on this podcast, I'm
going to tell you, it makes me think without, you know, I only
have an ambient awareness when you say that it makes me feel

(02:13:53):
good that we're doing this podcast because that's not the
routine that I get on Twitter. The the routine on Twitter from
the centralized docs, bro, they,they are not interested in this
at all. They're interested in punching
their time clock, getting their Rockefeller money and their
grants going to their, you know,shows, getting their free lunch,

(02:14:16):
you know, in the clinic every day.
It's a bad scene and really bad scene.
And the problem is I tend not totalk to those docs anymore.
I go straight to their patients because I think teaching the
patients that their doctors are are fucking Jeffrey Epstein's is
a better way to do it. Like I, I want to tear them
down. You know, I, I, I went off on

(02:14:38):
Asimo Ultra. You know, the, the, the Brits
are going after his medical license.
I put a tweet out. Yes.
I said about time. If anybody needs their license
taken away, it's this guy. He killed his own father with
the job. You know, to me, how can you be
a doctor? And you know, he says, he says
to me now he goes, I think that's pretty harsh criticism.
He said, you know, you woke up. I said, yeah, but how come I

(02:15:01):
knew about the jobs before you did?
I said, remember, they're killing people on your organ.
They're not killing them on my organ.
Why was I able to figure it out before you?
I'm going to tell you why, because you were too busy liking
your press clippings over the NHS, you know, being on TV.
All the time. No, you have a duty of your

(02:15:22):
patients 1st. And the fact that you killed
your own father, to me, that's penance that you'll have to deal
with. But do I think he's the kind of
guy that needs his license takenaway so they can listen to a
podcast like this and go throughwhat you're going through.
The real essence of a doctor, You don't need a license.
Everything that we talked about today, you can sit down with

(02:15:43):
somebody outside, have a glass of wine with them or a cold
water, or do you cheer them, deplete what?
Whatever you want to do. And we can sit there and have
this discussion. And you know what?
It's more beneficial because nowyou can spend time with your
patients instead of having to worry about, you know, your
schedule and seeing 80 people. There's nothing better than

(02:16:06):
sitting where I'm sitting right now having this discussion with
somebody else. Now I'll tell you funny story.
About 3 weeks ago, my Medtronic Rep for spine, he came to El
Sourdras, sat in the chair rightnext to us where we're talking
now. I hadn't seen the guy in 2025
years. I made this guy millions of

(02:16:28):
dollars. He's now falling apart.
He comes down here, he goes. I see what you're doing.
It's amazing. So guess what?
He's now leaving Nashville and he's got to relocate here.
My. Friends but.
My friends are finding him a place because Nashville has made
him really sick. Yeah.
And I told him, I said, now you know why I left in 2013.

(02:16:49):
As soon as they put those fiber optic rings around there, I knew
what it meant. Everything that hooks up to
those things, you're basically the monkey in the microwave
oven. And it's sad to see what's
happening, but why? It was a good story when he came
here and he said, because I always knew you were smart.
He goes. But I never realized this is
really what you are working on the whole time.

(02:17:10):
Because when you stop putting the hardware on people and left
millions of dollars on the tableand everybody thought you were
crazy. I said I was crazy, but I was
crazy in the sense that I was harming and hurting people.
And I realized when I was, I stopped doing it right away.
Like when I tell you the day that I changed, I had five AC DS

(02:17:33):
on the schedule with this Rep. I cancelled them all.
I said we're going to do this different.
And he knew it. He knew the story.
Everybody in Nashville knew thatI changed on a dime.
And that's why I said to you, when you guys figure it out, it
will be a lightning bolt that hits you and then you're going

(02:17:53):
to find soul. It's like you're going to have
to go through some soul searching.
You're going to think about patients that you really hurt,
but then you're going to realize, now I can really help
you. Now this is really why I filled
out that application in medical school when I was altruistic.
Now I know that I can turn rhinos into elephants.

(02:18:17):
Now I know I can fix somebody with metabolic syndrome.
I can fix somebody, you know, with this problem or that
problem. Like the opportunities for you
to be a doctor, like the people that I've helped.
It's no. Longer in neurosurgery, you
know, it's now I can do things with esophageal, I should say
eosinophilic esophagitis or someone with vitiligo like these

(02:18:41):
are not diseases that I ever treated before when I was a
neurosurgeon. But it turns out the science
that I'm uncovering this can help these people, you know,
after they've been through the Mayo Clinic, after they've been
through Sloan Kettering. You know, I could tell you
stories of one of my members who's a big EMF guy in New York.
His, his grandmother got stage 4ovarian cancer.

(02:19:04):
I don't know, like 10-12 years ago.
She lived in New York. She took care of his kids.
I said, just do me a favor, buy our house in Mexico, leave her
down there, put her on the beach.
Sloan Kettering cut her loose and said go home and die.
You know, make your plans. We don't have anything else.
For you, she's Chinese descent. And I said, I'm telling you,
she's going to tan pretty good when you set her down there.

(02:19:25):
But she goes down there. I think 18 months later, she
goes back to Sloan Kettering. They can't find the tumors in
her ovaries. Like that's the kind of shit
that I was like, look, there's no loss to US.
Centralized medicine already told us to go home and die.
I said, OK, well, let's try this.
Let's feed her deuterium depleted water, put her on the

(02:19:45):
beach and see what happens. I guess what?
Wow. Right.
You just go, OK, where was that class?
You know, you know, when I was in residency where, you know,
The thing is, to me, that's the essence of being a doctor.
And, you know, I don't want to catch people too late in their

(02:20:06):
disease. I'd rather catch them earlier,
like the frustrating ones for methat are in my wheelhouse, like
Parkinson's, Alzheimer's. ALS I've got a lot of those
people down here now, but they come to me really late in the
game. What I need to do is catch them
earlier in the game. The problem is to catch them
earlier in the game, you have torely on the centralized fox that

(02:20:27):
are, you know, give them L dopa and that's not that doesn't work
out or, you know, if they have astimulator already in their
head. Sometimes you can, you can catch
them in reverse parts of their disease, you know, but when it's
too full gone, you know, the cells.

(02:20:47):
Yeah. I mean, there comes a point of
no return when the matrix is is fried and it's loaded with, you
know, iron and copper, which we can see on an MRI.
I know that it's going to be hard to do.
But The thing is, could you still keep them functional so
their brain works so their cognition doesn't go bad?
Yeah, you can do that. I mean, there's there's other

(02:21:08):
things that you have to look at.I don't think I can can take
somebody who's got an active tremor, get rid of it, you know,
since I can put the melanin backin the substantial Niger.
But do I know what they need to do every day to make that more
likely than not? Do I think, you know, we need to
teach neurologist to check the resting rate of their tumors in

(02:21:29):
terms of Hertz frequencies when they're in the sun?
Like I can tell you, people who have Parkinson's comes to me
with tremors. You know, we notice, we notice
that we're in there in the sun. The tremor changes when they're
out of the sun, the tremors worse.
So do I know that that ability to repair and heal is still
there? Yes.
But are you going to be able to read that, Sean, as a doctor in

(02:21:52):
Shreveport in, I don't know, TheLancet or the New England
Journal of Medicine? No, they're never going to let
that in The. Literature.
That's the problem. Yeah.
They got to keep selling L dope.Yeah, that's right.
That's that's the currency of everything right there for sure.
That's the truth. And you know, you doctors got to

(02:22:15):
stop lying to themselves. Once you unplug from the matrix
and you do right by the patients, you begin to realize
as a doctor you can't help everybody.
But the people that you can help, those are the people you
need to go all in on it. Because if you keep treating the
people who are already dead but don't know enough to lay down,
you're going to burn out. And that's really what's
happening to a lot of doctors right now.

(02:22:38):
So, changing gears one second, am I taking too much of your
time? Jack?
I'm sorry if I are. OK, here's the.
Question in the pool, in the sun.
She's naked, sunbathing, so we're good.
You, you've got something to look at.
You're good. That's right.
So cold thermogenesis timing, listening just a little bit to

(02:23:00):
you and, and making this up myself.
So now I'm going to talk to the source.
My gestalt was best first thing in the morning before the
sunrise and then get in the sun.Or is it more of a Band-Aid that
you can use throughout the timetable?
I don't want you ever think of it as a Band-Aid.
Let me just tell you something. Cold for mammals is always a

(02:23:22):
good answer. Why?
What does it fundamentally do? Does a lot of things, but I'm
going to give you the main take home.
OK, when you do, CTI want you todo it grounded.
OK, meaning the best way is to go to Tractor Supply where you
live, get a tub, copper wire outinto the ground.
I'm very happy that you do it inthe morning before sunlight.

(02:23:44):
In fact, I'd be really happy if you did it as the sun rises on
you. You saw my bathroom right over
there. I have a house built where you
can open the door, sit in the tub and do it just like that.
I will be honest with you, I don't really have to do it here
because my pool is filled with the chair and depleted water
from the volcano. That's what Chantal sitting in
right now. So we do it a little bit
differently here because we're in the tropics.

(02:24:06):
But what I would say to you, CT,the main function of CT is
isotopic fractionation. It gets.
Rid of deuterium and puts hydrogen in you.
So let me tell you what the gameis here.
The game is, is you want to get rid of deuterium through your
sweat, through your poop, through your exocrine system.

(02:24:29):
And it turns out melanin does that.
What don't? What didn't you learn in LSU?
Deuterium has an extra neutron on it.
It's it's still hydrogen, but it's got an extra neutron.
So it's got. More mass.
But what's the key thing that you need to know about it?
It's got a different magnetic moment.
The magnetic moment of deuteriumis 2.84.

(02:24:51):
Milligauss and the magnetic moment of hydrogen is 0.8.
So when you look at that you saywow, just a little neutron.
It's a 3 to 1 magnetic moment change.
What is that? Melanin actually elates
deuterium and when you're cooling, what does it do?
It gets rid of it. What?

(02:25:12):
I don't want you to think that deuterium is bad because it's
not you know where you're designed to put deuterium in
your blood. Where is it not designed to be?
In your tissues? Where the mitochondria Why?
Because if deuterium gets in to the matrix, that ruins the TCA
cycle and the urea cycle where you make your best energy in the

(02:25:33):
morning. That's why you're looking at AM
sunlight. To make use of the TCA and urea
cycle you have to see AM sun. So why am I OK with what you
said morning morning before UV comes up?
If you're going to ask me, the circadian biology of cold
thermogenesis is best at that time.

(02:25:53):
But. Is the benefit for a guy like
you right now? You both got in a cold tub at
this time in Louisiana. You ain't hurting yourself.
Why? Because what are you still
doing? You're still getting rid of
deuteron, but you're also shrinking the inner
mitochondrial matrix. What is the real effect?
If I could, if I had unlimited money, I would send you guys an

(02:26:18):
electron microscope and I would tell you why you guys are doing
CT to do a fine needle biopsy ofyour skin.
Look at it and what you would see on the electron microscope,
the Christa alignment of your mitochondria would be perfect.
A guy named Martin Picard wrote this paper with a lady named
Megan McManus. They're both out of Doug

(02:26:39):
Wallace's lab. What you would find if you
didn't do CT is that the Christaalignment wouldn't line up.
Now this is where I'm going to freak you out.
This is going to be where everybody goes.
Did he just say what I think he said?
What does the alignment have to do?
It's the same thing that CERN does down in Switzerland.
You are lining up so that you can take spin polarized

(02:27:03):
electrons and and make the most incredible energy.
Why? Because something you aren't
taught in medical school Melon, and it's chiral and chaotic and
it's atomic structure. So what does it do?
It's been polarized electrons. And guess what that makes?
It makes triplet free radicals that don't turn to heat like
when you get a sunburn. You're making singlet C

(02:27:23):
radicals. That's why skin turns red,
because you're making singlet radicals out of superoxide,
hydrogen peroxide, whatever. But when you do it the right way
and you're using CIS, which is chiral induced spin splitting,
which is what melanin does, you make triplet free radicals.
And what does that build in you?Quantum coherence.

(02:27:46):
That is what makes an elephant an elephant and a rhino a rhino.
It's what makes us human and makes you not a gorilla or a
chimp. And it turns out we have that
ability on our exterior and our interior.
But where are we really special?We have so much melanin in our
brain. We are, we are like psychos.

(02:28:06):
That is the reason why our brainis so fundamentally different
because, you know, we just talked about the substantial
nigra. I know that both of you learned
in medical school, the substantial nigra loses its
melon, you get Parkinson's. Everybody knows that, but what
you may not know is that not every animal has melanin in
their substantial nigra. Turns out we're kind of unique.

(02:28:27):
Like that? And why is that happening?
Because that part of your brain has to make those spin polarized
electrons to make energy from ridiculous levels of radiation.
In other words, you're stepping down the current when you do it.
That's why your brain can do some amazing things.
And when you think about what you guys did learn about the

(02:28:47):
brain, you go, yeah, when the nurse surgeons open their head,
the freaking thing is covered inwater.
It's filled with water. Just freaking water everywhere.
And where does that water come from, my friend?
It's an ultra filtrated. The blood.
Guess what? It's filtering out all the
deterrent. It's deterrent depleted water.
That surrounds your brain and you are making massive amounts

(02:29:09):
of electrons from that water. Why?
Because what did I tell you is one of the other things that
melanin does, it charge separates water into hydrogen,
oxygen and four electrons. The four electrons make the DC
current. Hydrogen is used inside the
mitochondria and you know what oxygen is used for?
It's a terminal electronic scepter or the mitochondria.
So you see all the parts are being used like nature is very

(02:29:31):
crafty in how she does things and Mellon is the key way that
you deuterium deplete. And when you do tear and deplete
inside, what are you doing? You're making ultra weak
biophotons that are also UV. Guess what that does actually is
making melanin inside of you. So that's the reason why CT is

(02:29:51):
important because CT shrinks your inner mitochondrial
membrane. It brings cytochrome 1 and
cytochrome 4 apart. You don't want them too far
apart. Do you know why?
When they're too far apart, you can't tunnel electrons or
protons. Well, what is the key thing in
biophysics, you learn the closeryou are to tunneling, there's
not a big what we call Coulomb barrier or barrier to tunnel

(02:30:14):
through. So that's the other reason why
CT is so incredibly important because it shrinks your inner
mitochondrial membrane. And geometrically you can see
this. If you had the electron
microscope, like when you guys got in there, you would see
perfect alignment of the Criste on the inner mitochondrial
junctions. Like you'd say, this is amazing.
It's almost like a liquid crystalline structure manifests

(02:30:38):
and what is what did Doug Wallace and that these guys that
did this paper show us that we're more energy efficient when
we do that and guess what it doesn't require any food into
the system which tells you. That this whole.
Feedback system from the outsidein, from melanin all the way
through. Basically, you're running a
particle accelerator in your matrix.

(02:30:59):
That's what's happening. It's absolutely astounding what
we're capable of. But you know, the real problem
is if you think about what I just told you and what you
learned in biochemistry, like these are like 2 worlds that
never even touch and that's the reason why you don't get it.
And the fact that these papers are written and they're out

(02:31:19):
there and you guys can source them, and then you go and Jack's
telling us if we had an electronmicroscope and a fine needle
biopsy, we could do this on eachother's biohacks while we're in
the coal tub. And here's the other thing.
You're going to be shocked at this one.
I think you're both like, do youknow another very unknown fact

(02:31:40):
for doctors, Do you know that deuterium is the key biophysical
choice? And whether a fat cell becomes a
brown fat cell or a white adipocyte, the more deuterium
that's in your fat cell, it becomes a storage vehicle.
Why? Cuz it has a huge kinetic
isotope effect. But if you take the deuterium

(02:32:00):
out, it becomes a brown fat celland you know what brown fat
cells do right They turn your calories into free heat, don't
they? Oh starting to starting to make
sense to you why that if you're on AGLP 1 drug, maybe you should
start drinking deuterium depleted water instead.
Yep, now you're beginning to understand how the physics all

(02:32:21):
fit and when you read the papersthat.
Actually tell you because this paper is written peer reviewed.
That adipocyte morphogenesis is tied to deuterium levels in
there. Then you go, OK, well, where are
we supposed to keep deuterium inour body?
You're supposed to keep it in your arteries.

(02:32:41):
So just so you know this, this will stun you more.
Do you know that? Humans are designed to have 6X
the time of deuterium then we doglucose in our blood.
Have you ever learned that in biochemistry?
Never. That's a normal human.
Don't you think that if you knewthat, you'd say, well, why we
focus so much on glucose and insulin and why are we going to

(02:33:02):
talk about deuterium, which is 6X more?
You start to going, OK, well, what happens if the deuterium
doesn't get in our blood and stays in our skin?
Do you know who that patient is?That's a diabetic with
acanthosis Sniger cans. That's why they get the darkness
on their skin. It's the Chernobyl story inside

(02:33:23):
out. How about the vitiligo people?
Those are the people that make H2O2 constantly.
That's a single free radical destroys the melanocytes.
So you have to reverse the process.
You know what you also find? If you sample their blood,
you'll find out that they don't have as much deuterium.
What's the normal amount of deuterium that you cats should

(02:33:43):
have? 150 parts per million, same as
the ocean. Now guess what if that number
goes down? You're fucked.
You need to keep it in there. Do you know what keeps it in
there? Melanin cold thermogenesis.
How'd you like that? So that's why I told you the

(02:34:04):
blog that I wrote a long time ago about the mammalian dive
reflex. It's tied directly to the story
you when you go through. When you realize that the human
fecundity and fertility is tied to the leptin Milano corn
pathway, then you're going to say, so this is the reason why
monkeys are born thin and why we're born as fat as fuck

(02:34:26):
because we have an immature brain.
We're using that fat to reform our brain post natally for 20
years and what else are we doing?
We're filling these fat cells upin the last trimester with the
mother's uterium. That's exactly.
What we're doing and then what happens?
The baby has the little brown fat pad that you did learn about

(02:34:46):
right back here, right? That's the only place.
And then we lose it. Part of the chromosome #2 Pomsi
pro opium, melanocortin. We talked about cortisol being
in this. What's the other peptide that's
in there that you learned about?Beta endorphin?
What is that? It's an opiate that's released
from. UV.
Light nature designed us to be addicted to sunlight.

(02:35:10):
Oh, and it's on chromosome too. And you the dermatologist get
away. How much?
How long they got away? Telling you Sonos toxin for you.
OK, explain to me why beta endorphin is.
In pomsi. Explain to me, then you begin to
understand. OK, now I understand Janis,
Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, Prince, why they're all drug addicts

(02:35:30):
because they're all practicing them.
But electrified instruments at night never get in the sun.
They had to replace morphine andOxycontin because they weren't
making any Betty endorphin ain'tthat hard to figure out, my
friend. That's the issue with that
pathway. Cold thermogenesis helps them.
Reset it correct in. Fact every.

(02:35:53):
Drug addict should be in the sundoing CT.
That's how you fix them. Well, just so you know, that's
what I drink, Ruben. He wasn't.
A drug addict, but he should have been because he was up
helping Metallica and ACDC. Make albums at 4:00 in the
morning while he had sunglasses on, I mean.

(02:36:16):
And you know, if you know anything about Rick.
He'll tell you. Yeah, I just.
Got in the sun and built $1,000,000 CT deck on.
My house in Malibu and listen toJack and I lost.
A. £100 that's how he became my patient.
That's that's the reason why to this day he's still my friend
and and he's funny because. He's the.
Patient like if he listened to this podcast, he would turn.

(02:36:40):
It off probably in 30 minutes because he hates the science.
He's like. Just tell me what to do.
Because all the other doctors told me the wrong shit.
Just tell me what to do and that's it's very, I wish I had
100,000 Rick Reubens as patientsbut unfortunately I've got a lot
of rhinos. That's why they're all over my
house. I like it.

(02:37:06):
Well, look, I really, really appreciate your.
Time today I. Know do you have anything else
for Jack right now now. When you disconnect the
recording, I need to ask him, but off the record, yeah,
question. Cool.
Cool, cool, cool. Well, we can always edit that
part out. So we're just going to formally
end this Doctor Cruz? Thanks so much for for being

(02:37:26):
part of this podcast today and been an honor to talk to you.
You've cracked my brain open it a couple times from podcast
today. I'm going to have to keep
everything from leaking out of my ears.
It's crazy. So I appreciate it so much.
Hey, no problem anytime, OK? This is Doctor Hewitt McCullough
from the Informed Health Initiative.
We just want to thank all of our.

(02:37:46):
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