generations of of of government bureaucrats can keep something a secret? >> Sure. They They tell the the the people the very highest level know about it. It's very few people. It's all very compartmentalized. They monitor everyone's phone calls, everyone's emails, everything everyone does. At a top secret clearance level? >> No way. >> I don't think you're right. >> Totally impossible. >> You definitely not right. >> I think it's impossible. >> Listen, man, they can keep secrets. >> When? >> People at high levels of military can keep secrets. >> Yeah, but they're always rotating out. They're retiring, they're dying. >> Yeah, they probably wind up [ __ ] Hillary Clinton and a lot of those dudes. >> [laughter] >> Hey, listen, dude, this is not the this is not conspiracy social club. This is the Joe Rogan experience. >> I am not willing to um relinquish the idea that they could keep that secret. >> cuz it's fun to believe in it. >> Yeah, but it's not just a fun to believe in. It is possible. It's a physically possible thing to do. Especially if you have the right people and they're indoctrinated in the right way with top secret clearance. And by the way, it's not like these people don't tell their friends. And it's not like there's a bunch of stories floating around cuz there are. There's a shitload of stories floating around. >> But why why would you like I would never keep that a secret. I'd be like, "Hey, hey, you got [ __ ] aliens." >> the thing. When you have senators and congressmen who find out about this and they find out that military contractors are the ones who have access to this stuff because the back engineering program has to involve someone has the capability of recreating this. So, who would that be? That would be the people that make jets. If you got someone who's making you a [ __ ] uh a stealth bomber and you have a crashed UFO, those are the people that you want discussing like what kind of things that you've recovered from a [ __ ] alien crash and can this be replicated? >> No. Here's the problem with your whole theory. >> Don't you know me, [ __ ] Cuz you don't know. You might be wrong. >> No. >> No, no, no. Don't say you're wrong because you don't know that I'm wrong. >> The problem with your theory. Ready? I'm sorry, and I love that you want to believe in this and so do I, but here's the problem. >> Okay. >> There's no law. There's no written law that says I'm not allowed to talk about aliens. And I mean at the level the top levels of clearance, like the most secret level. There is no world where if I'm a government official and I take a bunch of pictures and I come before Congress and I go, "Here's my evidence. I'm blowing the whistle. There are real aliens." >> think they would go to jail for violating your top secret clearance. No, because it's not violating my top secret clearance. Because I'd never go to jail for that. Cuz I'd be like, you're going to put me in jail for exposing what everybody wants to know. The whole world would be like, "HOLY [ __ ] YOU GUYS kept this a secret?" >> That's assuming that you have access to that material to extract it from wherever the Maybe maybe not. Maybe those are the kind of people that wouldn't do that, Brian. >> Listen. >> You're a [ __ ] communist. I don't like the way you think. >> [laughter] >> I'm blowing I'm I'm shredding your UFO files. >> You you think you are, but you're just using these establishment talking >> to talk about UFOs and you never get in trouble. >> You sound like your dad. >> Come on, man. First tell me and the show will be in the up and >> You're a CIA stooge and you're in here spreading propaganda to the faithful listeners. >> Listen to me. Listen to me. There are no aliens and if there are uh we'd know about it. >> Imagine you're hanging out with Trump. He's like, "You want to see the UFO? Can you keep a secret?" Yeah, there he is. Hanging out with Nixon. And um they supposedly do have something that crashed and they supposedly do have biological entities that are on ice somewhere. This is according to these whistleblowers that work for the government and now we're talking about I just don't know what's real. It's hard to know. And you talk about it you feel like a [ __ ] cuz it's like There's got to be something out there. >> Mhm. >> Okay, we've got to assume there's something out there whether or not I don't even know. >> Right, but we should we assume that that something's been here? >> Yeah. >> I think so. >> Yeah, they've been here. >> Well, I would come here. If I was from somewhere else and I was like, "What do we you know, imagine if you're like from some super advanced civilization that's completely abandoned war, there's no thievery, everybody reads everybody's minds, there's no unfairness because they've worked all that stuff out. It's just superior intellect because everybody's evolved for a million years past where we are now. And you get the opportunity to see what a breakthrough civilization looks li